Bivalves-first molluscs (my cladogram)

Ken Kinman kinman at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Aug 28 16:41:21 CDT 2002

Dear All,
     For Heaven's sake!!!  I guess I just can't win no matter what I do
(Roth says I quote too little and Clark says I quote too much).  I
selectively quoted the polite and relevant part of Lindberg's post for
background (I thought I was doing him a favor by omitting the long rant).
Selectively quoting from an identified source does not violate copyright
     Like Goldilocks' mother bear, I tried to do it "just right", and I get
attacked from both sides (much as strict cladists and strict eclecticists
attack the Kinman System from both sides).  It's really ashame we aren't
using this bandwidth to discuss molluscan phylogeny and classification (as
that was my intent).
     I shall henceforth boil my posts down to the bare minimum, and if
someone wants more background, I guess they will have to ask.  I'm tired of
politics and semantics (and differing views of "manners") getting in the way
and diverting attention from biology.  I have better things to do, and now
in a bad mood, so I leave it at that.
              ----- Ken
>From: Curtis Clark <jcclark at CSUPOMONA.EDU>
>Reply-To: Curtis Clark <jcclark at CSUPOMONA.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Bivalves-first molluscs (my cladogram)
>Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:41:18 -0700
>At 20:37 2002.08.27, Barry Roth wrote:
>>In his post below, Ken Kinman selectively quotes from a post by David R.
>>Lindberg to the Mollusca list.  In the spirit of full disclosure, I here
>>pass along Dr. Lindberg's message in its entirety, for which I trust David
>>will forgive me:
>I have to object to the reposting of any email in any forum without
>explicit agreement by the author. It is bad manners, and in many countries
>also a violation of copyright law. I am offended to think that Ken may be
>taking things that we post here on Taxacom and reposting them elsewhere.
>When we post to Taxacom, we are by default agreeing to the web archive, but
>not to reposting elsewhere. I can only believe that the Mollusca list
>functions in the same manner.
>Curtis Clark        
>Biological Sciences Department            Voice: +1 909 869 4062
>California State Polytechnic University     FAX: +1 909 869 4078
>Pomona CA 91768-4032  USA                  jcclark at

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