Three great papers (cladistics; paraphyly)

B.J.Tindall bti at DSMZ.DE
Wed Jan 16 14:20:37 CST 2002

two problems here -
a) if you link this into the current debate on cladistics you won't find
many bacteriologist who use cladistic methods so there is a tendancy to say
clear 3 groups - Archaea/Archaebacteria, Eukarya and Bacteria/Eubcatreia
(Metabacteria being rarely used).
b) Ernst Mayr is fairly negative about certain aspects of bacterial
taxonomy - most of the arguments about the diversity of plants and animals
rests on morphological criteria, and if your objects do not have very
distinctive morphologies then they are "not very diverse". Of course if the
diversity is at a different level then this type of argument ignores that.

.......but you know that I do not always agree with you Ken ;-)


Ken Kinman wrote:
>    (3)  Having read papers by those two younger guys (one a botanist and
>one a zoologist), you might want to look at it from a bacteriological
>perspective from someone who is better known:
>    Ernst Mayr. 1998.  "Two Empires or Three" (Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci.,
>95:9720-9723).  Since Ernst named me in his acknowledgments, I guess that
>makes me bias, but I think it's a great paper.
>            --------Ken Kinman
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