Private collections of museum curators

Robin Leech releech at TELUSPLANET.NET
Wed Oct 2 00:54:34 CDT 2002


I agree with Bernard.  I cannot think of any group in botany, zoology,
microbiology or mycology where a type is not a building block.
Examining type specimens has, for me, solved more than a few
species problems.
Robin Leech

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernard Landry" <bernard.landry at MHN.VILLE-GE.CH>
To: <TAXACOM at USOBI.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:38 AM
Subject: Private collections of museum curators


I am sorry Lynn, but your point of view does not hold for entomology.
Type specimens are indeed essential for us. If we did not have them
we could barely go anywhere, the older original descriptions very
often being utterly inadequate for accurate identifications. The
older taxonomists (and, unfortunately, some contemporary) had a
typological approach, whereas every form (type) was a species,
basically. This has not much to do with our need for access to type
specimens today, and contemporary taxonomy, based on evolution and a
thorough understanding of intraspecific variation.
Cheers,
Bernard

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>Reply-To: Lynn Raw <lynn.raw at VIRGIN.NET>
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>From: Lynn Raw <lynn.raw at VIRGIN.NET>
>Subject:      Re: [TAXACOM] Private collections of museum curators
>Comments: To: Eric Gouda <E.J.Gouda at BIO.UU.NL>
>To: TAXACOM at USOBI.ORG
>
>"Eric Gouda" <E.J.Gouda at BIO.UU.NL> wrote -
>
>>
>>  I think there is no problem in having private collections (when the
>>  specimen are not protected by law), the only thing is if Types are
allowed
>>  to be in private collections, this is a real problem. Also when specimen
>>  are mentioned in publications, these "must" (or better) be available to
>the
>>  scientific society. You have the responsibility to make scientific
>>  publications checkable. To my idea, that is the difference between a
>>  scientific publication and a fairy-tale.
>
>Fair enough, but what is the response regarding a private collection that
>holds Types that ARE made available to all researchers in contrast to some
>institutions that hold Types but do not make these Types freely available
to
>non-institutionally-affiliated researchers? In this case could we say that
>the private collection would be a better repository than the institution?
>
>In a way, types seem to be given more significance than they deserve. They
>are useful but not essential to the practice of taxonomy and may not even
be
>typical of the population from which they were taken. To me, the original
>printed description is more important since it is the basis of the
>nomenclature. A Type has no significance without the original published
>description but the description remains valid even if the Type is lost. I
>thought that we were (supposed to be) moving away from the old Typological
>taxonomy.
>
>Lynn Raw


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