To hyphenate or not to hyphenate

Paul van Rijckevorsel dipteryx at FREELER.NL
Fri Oct 31 18:58:21 CST 2003

To be exact the 1996 BioCode (Third draft, is this the most recent one?)
Article 35
35.1. Distinguishable groups of cultivated plants, whose origin or selection
is primarily due to the intentional actions of mankind (e.g. cultivars and
cultivar-groups), are not covered by this Code, but are denominated under
the provisions of the International code of nomenclature for cultivated
= + =

In thinking a little on a MetaCode it seems it would be desirable to have
translations of the basic concepts to the several separate 'jargons', eg.
MetaCode: " It is the oldest name that counts"
Botanical translation: "For any taxon the correct name is the earliest
legitimate name in that same rank, except in cases of limitation of priority
by conservation or where specified exceptions apply."
Zoological translation [no ICZN at hand]
Bacteriological transation: [no Bacteriological Code either]
[leaving combinations aside, it is the general idea that counts]

If there is such a translation of the MetaCode (covering major principles)
into ICBN-speak, ICZN-speak, etc it would be only a small step to break each
Code into two parts: a general part (translation of MetaCode) and a part to
deal with the 'idiosynchrasies' of the groups under consideration. This
would allow retention of many customs, that likely have proved their value.
Why replace the parts that are not broken?

It may well be that this would work better than having a completely new
BioCode that covers everything and replaces what may not need to be

Just philosophizing.
Paul van Rijckevorsel
Utrecht, NL

----- Original Message -----
From: B.J.Tindall <bti at DSMZ.DE>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: To hyphenate or not to hyphenate

> Paul,
> Sorry, I didn't express myself clearly. What I meant was that within the
> text for the BioCode we had to reserve special sections for ichnotaxa and
> cultivated plants. The "old/Special Codes" still dealt with the names
> created before the BioCode would become active. However, that is the
> BioCode model, which is in published form. Perhaps you meant something
> slightly different, which would not be 100% what the BioCode contains, but
> like organisms codes also evolve. The important point is to make sure we
> are talking about the same details. What you propose was not in the
> BioCode, but is another suggestion, which can also be taken into
> consideration.
> Brian
>  17:11 31.10.2003 +0100, you wrote:
> >From: B.J.Tindall <bti at DSMZ.DE>
> >Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 3:45 PM
> >> In the
> >> case of inchnotaxa and cultivated plants (we usually forget the
> >> plant code) the differences were so large to the other parts of the
> >> codes that they had to be dealt with separately.
> >
> >+ + +
> >AIUI, the ICNCP would operate under the BioCode in the same way as it
> >operates under the ICBN. It is indeed entirely separate, for instance in
> >using types but standard specimens. Also, priority is kept within bounds.
> >
> >However, speaking about forgetting Codes, it is possible for separate
> >to operate under the aegis of the ICNCP, and there is at least one such
> >Code, for cultivated orchids.
> >
> >Paul van Rijckevorsel
> >Utrecht, NL
> >
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