ID musings

murray.fletcher at AGRIC.NSW.GOV.AU murray.fletcher at AGRIC.NSW.GOV.AU
Tue Jan 18 11:44:30 CST 2005

Absolutely! If the air/food intake had been better designed we would still
have Jimi Hendricks and Mama Cass with us.
Maybe that's the reason :-)


Richard Jensen <rjensen at SAINTMARYS.EDU>
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18/01/2005 12:31 AM
Please respond to Richard Jensen

        Subject:        Re: ID musings

It's relatively easy to come up with examples of poor design (e.g., what
"engineer" in his right mind would utilize the same pathway for air and
intake, given the numerous opportunities for choking death that arise from
this).  Unfortunately, such arguments are generally wasted - the true
believer doesn't question the reasoning of the designer; there was some
greater purpose at work here.

Gasping for air as I eat my bana..........,


Steve Manning wrote:

> At 07:13 PM 1/14/2005 -0800, Curtis Clark wrote:
> >I was giving a guest lecture about photosynthesis last quarter, and I
> >pointed out that one of the best arguments against intelligent design
> >RuBisCO, the enzyme that fixes CO2 in photosynthesis. It is one of the
> >most abundant proteins, and the most abundant enzyme, in nature, it has
> >a reaction rate ten to a hundred times slower than your average enzyme,
> >and it will give up on the reaction, and even run backwards, if the
> >substrate concentration runs low. If RuBisCo were an employee, it would
> >be the boss's idiot nephew. RuBisCo makes sense in the evolutionary
> >context of using what you've got, but if I were an intelligent
> >I'd be ashamed to have created RuBisCO.
> That is assuming designing something to be efficient is an intelligent
> thing to do!  (Maybe it would be less fun that way for the designer to
> contemplate).
> >--
> >Curtis Clark        
> >Web Coordinator, Cal Poly Pomona                 +1 909 979 6371
> >Professor, Biological Sciences                   +1 909 869 4062
> Dr. Steve Manning
> Arkansas State University--Beebe
> Mathematics and Science
> Professor of Biology
> P.O. Box 1000
> Beebe, AR  72012
> Phone: 501-882-8203
> Fax: 501-882-4437

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