[Taxacom] complete list of all species

Stuart Fullerton stuartf at pegasus.cc.ucf.edu
Fri Feb 15 09:06:49 CST 2008


sticks and stones, crossed insect pins at 30 yards, will the "real" 
scientist please step forward.

where IS Gena when we need her?

love and welcome to the day after valentines day.

cheers!   rof


Jody Haynes wrote:

>I realized that I mistakenly blamed Jim for your comment right after I sent 
>my message... and for that I apologize.
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>I still disagree with your blanket statement in reference to ALL taxonomists 
>not knowing what they are talking about. I am not a taxonomist by training, 
>but I do some taxonomy, and I believe there are taxonomists out there who do 
>know what they are talking about -- just as much as a chemist might know 
>about chlorine (although I also don't believe your comparison between the 
>biological sciences and the "hard" sciences is necessarily fair either). I 
>also believe that there are reproducible descriptions and circumscriptions 
>of taxa -- as well as some that are not reproducible. Taxonomy is obviously 
>subjective... but that does not necessarily make it unreproducible.
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike Dallwitz" <m.j.dallwitz at netspeed.com.au>
>To: <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:07 AM
>Subject: Re: [Taxacom] complete list of all species
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>>Jody Haynes wrote:
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>>>I find Jim's comment "[t]axonomists literally don't know what they're
>>>talking about" somewhat offensive.
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>>It was my comment, not Jim's. The key word is 'literally'. Taxonomists 
>>talk
>>about taxa. Because of the lack of adequate, reproducible descriptions 
>>(i.e.
>>definitions) of taxa, they can't be sure what they are talking about. If
>>chemists talk about chlorine, they know what they are talking about. What
>>they say about it may be wrong - that's another matter.
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>>Mike Dallwitz
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Stuart M Fullerton ROF, Research Associate in charge of Arthropod
Collections (UCFC), Dept. of Biology, University of Central Florida, PO
Box 162368, Orlando, Florida, 32816-2368, USA. stuartf at pegasus.cc.ucf.edu
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