[Taxacom] The Reality (or not) of Species (again!)`

Richard Pyle deepreef at bishopmuseum.org
Mon Sep 15 13:20:58 CDT 2008


Yeah!  What he said!

Exactly.

Rich 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu 
> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of 
> Thomas G. Lammers
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:41 AM
> To: Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] The Reality (or not) of Species (again!)`
> 
> At 10:59 PM 9/14/2008, Curtis Clark wrote:
> >My objection is to the use of "species not real" as an excuse for 
> >ignoring entire levels of evolutionary pattern and process.
> 
> Is anyone really advocating that?  I certainly am not.  I 
> brought it up because I think too many cladists have their 
> noses so close to the grindstone that they lose sight of the 
> *reality* underlying what their method attempts to reflect.  
> In other words, it seems that the representation BECOMES the 
> reality for many.  They lose sight of the living organisms 
> represented by the terminal dots and the biological phenomena 
> that cause those branch lengths.  Art Cronquist said 
> something about "the unbridled search for truth becoming an 
> elegant minuet," where getting a neat and pretty stick figure 
> is more important than finding out what happened.
> 
> I'll be clear.  I do not advocate ignoring anything.  In 
> fact, THAT is my accusation of many cladists: that they 
> IGNORE too much reality in a desperate desire to make their 
> method "work".  It's a house of cards.
> 
> 
> Thomas G. Lammers, Ph.D.
> 
> Associate Professor and Curator of the Herbarium (OSH) 
> Department of Biology and Microbiology University of 
> Wisconsin Oshkosh Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901-8640 USA
> 
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