[Taxacom] Proposed Amendment to the Code

L Penev lyubo.penev at gmail.com
Wed Dec 23 14:49:27 CST 2009


But why open access is often associated with paying $5000 for a paper of,
say, 10 pages? There are several possibilities to handle open access
journals in a way that author-side fees does not look so insurmountable!

Lyubomir

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:29 PM, <Frank.Krell at dmns.org> wrote:

> don't know why the last message was sent prematurely - sorry
> here comes the second part:
>
> So for a paper of 10 printed pages, or in case of Nature much less, an
> amount of $5000 seems to be overly generous. The difference between our
> museum journal and journals of professional publishers is twofold. First, we
> are a small operation, involving a subject editor, an editor-in-chief, and a
> three person production team. Second, we don't make profit. Many learned
> societies rely on making profit with their journals, and professional
> publishers, or course, don't want to break even - they want to make profit
> to survive.
>
> Still, $5000 seems to be quite generous, and I would never be able and
> never be willing to pay such an amount for one little paper.
>
> Frank
>
> Dr Frank T. Krell
> Curator of Entomology
> Commissioner, International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature
> Chair, ICZN ZooBank Committee
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> ________________________________________
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [
> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Zander [
> Richard.Zander at mobot.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:36 AM
> To: Kipling (Kip) Will; TAXACOM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Proposed Amendment to the Code
>
> Open Access can be lucrative to publishers. I recently responded to a
> survey by Nature Publishing regarding a possible Open Access journal
> they are contemplating. The last question was "Would you be willing to
> pay US$5000 for publishing an article?" I replied "Laughable."
>
> Only people with NIH grants would be able to participate in Open Access
> if all publishers were this avaricious, grading to venal and mercenary
> if payment helped ensure publication. Open Access can open a can of
> worms.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kipling (Kip)
> Will
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:30 PM
> To: TAXACOM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Proposed Amendment to the Code
>
> If governmental funding agencies mandated that all publications
> resulting from research significantly supported by public funds (e.g.
> NSF, NIH, USDA) must be Open Access with relatively loose copyright
> control, we would see a pretty rapid shift and appropriate technology
> would emerge to handle these issues. Just follow the money.
>
> After all it is the people's money and so the results and information
> should be publicly and freely available. Our taxes already paid for it
> once. Maybe some publishers would lobby against this.
>
> cheers,
> Kip
>
> (p.s. No, I haven't always published OA, but I am changin' my ways)
>
> L Penev wrote:
>
> > 1.      Open access (OA) - *mandatory* for taxa descriptions on the
> day of
> > publication (Gold OA) and *highly recommended *for the whole papers
> where a
> > new taxon is described. How to separate new taxa descriptions from the
> rest
> > of the respective papers then to avoid copyright problems? Providing
> XML
> > files of new taxa descriptions to recognized repositories such as EOL
> and
> > taxon-based aggregators or linking XML files to the Official Register
> would
> > be an relatively easy way to solve the problem and to ensure an
> immediate
> > availability and long-term persistence of descriptions. Needless to
> say, the
> > best possible policy here is to recommend Gold OA for the taxonomic
> works in
> > general.
>
>
> --
> Kipling W. Will
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> Associate Director,Essig Museum of Entomology
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