[Taxacom] The word Botany

Jacques Melot jacques.melot at isholf.is
Wed Jan 7 09:21:40 CST 2009


  Le 2009-01-06, à 22:07 -0600, nous recevions de Sergio Vargas :

>Hi:
>
>I have checked with some friends (who are Spanish philologists) about the
>origin of the word Botany. Here's the answer after they consulted about 3
>different dictionaries:


[J. M.]   Je présume que c'est une blague de 1er avril, non ?

    En anglais, le terme « botany » (attesté en 
1696) est dérivé de « botanic », lequel est 
attesté pour la première fois en 1656 et est 
vraisemblablement emprunté au français où on le 
trouve dans le dictionnaire dès 1611. (Le lien 
avec le grec « thanatos » est fantaisiste ; 
pourquoi pas, pendant qu'on y est, bo + thanatos 
= mort au vaches !)

    Jacques Melot



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>Botany:
>
>1726. From Greek botanikós, derived from botanï, 'herb'. The derived term
>Botany was first introduced in 1726[1], probably through the english
>language[4]. (see note 1 bellow)
>
>   Word composition [2,3]:
>
>Tanatikós: death, capital death.
>
>Botanï: herb.
>
>-y: suffix: technical voice. (not sure about this in english!!!! see note 2
>bellow)
>
>  Bo-tan-y
>
>bo: botanï=herb.
>
>tan: tanatós=death.
>
>y: technical voice=occupation.
>
>  Botany: the occupation dealing with dead herbs.
>
>Botanist: that one who works with dead herbs.
>
>Acknowledgements:
>
>Isabel Jara Quesada (IJQ), Filología, Universidad de Costa Rica, kindly
>prepared the etymology for the Spanish word Botánica.  I (Sergio Vargas)
>translated it to English.
>
>The following (first 3) references were consulted by IJQ:
>
>  References:
>
>1. Corominas, Joan. Breve diccionario etimológico de la lengua castellana.
>Barcelona, Gredos, 3ra ed. 13va reimpresión, 2006.
>
>2. BOX. Diccionario manual griego-español. Barcelona, 28va ed. 1998.
>
>3. Pequeño Larousse Ilustrado, Paris, Libraire Larousse, 1964.
>
>4. Citation required.
>
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>Note 1:
>
>We are not sure about this, and some research is still needed. The words was
>first use in 1726, by whom remains to be determined. Also the language,
>English (not French) seems to be the best choice for now given the year.
>
>Note 2:
>
>ok... now, I had the etymology of the word in Spanish, I translated most of
>it but had serious troubles with the suffix -y which correspond to the
>Spanish suffix -ica (that indicates "oficio"=job, occupation). I checked
>some English dictionaries and the -y suffix seem to be defined only for
>words such as brainy, chilly, dopey, etc. but not for denoting a technical
>occupation when the word derives from Greek. Thus, I would appreciate to
>have some opinion about this issue.
>
>I had less trouble finding the meaning of the suffix -ist:
>
>The suffix -ist is used to denote a person who either practices something or
>a person who is concerned with something or a person who holds certain
>principles, doctrines, etc.
>
>Then, botanist=a person who works with dead herbs.
>
>any ways...
>
>I hope it helps!
>
>If the suffix -y issue can be improved I can update the etymology available
>at wikipedia (as requested).
>
>cheers
>
>--
>
>Sergio Vargas R. M.Sc.
>Center for Marine and Limnological Research
>University of Costa Rica
>San Jose, Costa Rica
>tel. +506 2511 3017
>sergio.vargasr at ecci.ucr.ac.cr
>sevragorgia at gmail.com
>
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>
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