[Taxacom] Reptilia (and Hominidae)
jgrehan at sciencebuff.org
Mon Mar 16 11:41:00 CDT 2009
Thomas is right - paraphyletic groups are not "meaningless". But I never
thought that was the argument. Rather they are not a natural
phylogenetic group in the sense of representing all descendants of a
unique common ancestor. I guess on might retain them as a descriptor of
some assemblage of primitive retentions.
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> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas G. Lammers
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Reptilia (and Hominidae)
> At 10:07 AM 3/16/2009, Richard Jensen wrote:
> >the insistence that hypothesized evolutionary relationships trump all
> >other empirical aspects of relationship.
> When did we decide that? When did the entire systematics community
> down and vote that "Phylogenetisches ueber Alles" was our motto? When
> we decide that the general principle, "Classifications have an
> basis" is to be interpreted to mean "branching pattern is the sole
> of evolution which we will consider"?
> Just what the hell kind of "scientist" discards data for the sake of a
> priori conclusions about the best way to analyze data, or swears
> to dogma rather than an objective estimation of the truth? It seems
> monumentally simple-minded to ignore anagenic change, to arbitrarily
> that paraphyletic groups are meaningless, etc.
> Someone REALLY needs to tell the Emperor he has no clothes ...
> Thomas G. Lammers, Ph.D.
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