[Taxacom] Drosophila melanogaster name change?

mivie at montana.edu mivie at montana.edu
Thu Apr 15 18:02:07 CDT 2010


Rather than a word, why not a symbol or idiogram, then we could say for
the name Prince, "the genus formerly known as Prince" ;-)

I worked once....

Mike

> I agree Rod; it is a very bad idea. The generic rank has duel functions
> that are not compatible, identification (information retrieval) and
> phylogeny. These should be decoupled. We don't need to wait for our kids
> to solve the problem. The solution is rather simple.
> 1. Pick a date, like Jan, 1, 2012, to fix all species level names and
> species described from that point on would retain the name in the original
> description (except for homonyms).
> 2. Create a new rank (perhaps call it  "Hennig") that is immediately above
> the genus rank, and let it take on the phylogenetic functions of the
> present genus rank. Thus on Jan. 1, 2012 all species would have identical
> genus and "Hennig" names but the Hennig name would float with phylogenetic
> insights and the genus name would be permanent.
> Mike
> Michael Sharkey
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> [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Roderic Page
> [r.page at bio.gla.ac.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:36 PM
> To: Jim Croft
> Cc: TAXACOM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Drosophila melanogaster name change?
>
> Is it just me, or will the real lesson be that identifiers (e.g.,
> taxonomic names) that are designed to convey information on
> relationships (i.e., to which genus a species belongs) are
> fundamentally a very bad idea if our idea of relationship can change.
>
> I think the bright kids at school will ask how on Earth did we come up
> with such a fragile system?
>
> Regards
>
> Rod
>
> On 15 Apr 2010, at 22:05, Jim Croft wrote:
>
>> this name change is going to be the best thing that has happened to
>> taxonomy since Linnaeus.
>>
>> from now on, every school text book that mentions the most highly
>> studied organism in the planet will have to include an explanation on
>> scientific names an why they sometimes need to change.
>>
>> bring it on!
>>
>> jim
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:15 AM, David Remsen (GBIF) <dremsen at gbif.org
>> > wrote:
>>> Some of my concerns regarding the ease of addressing this are:
>>>
>>> 1. Most people who reference scientific names are not familiar with
>>> the reality or the reasoning of name changes so wouldn't think of
>>> looking up a name change
>>
>> [... yada yada yada yada deleted :) ]
>>
>> jim
>>
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