[Taxacom] Drosophila melanogaster name change?

Paul Kirk p.kirk at cabi.org
Fri Apr 23 02:47:33 CDT 2010


Just squish the females and extract the DNA - voi la, an identification.

You all have a good weekend,

Paul 

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From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
Don.Colless at csiro.au
Sent: 23 April 2010 08:00
To: kim at kimvdlinde.com; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Drosophila melanogaster name change?


I simply reject the utility of a genus name which cannot be used when
identifying females, even if here are hundreds of species. There need be
no systematic problems; the very interesting taxa based on male
terminalia can be placed as subgenera, which is what they are for. This
leaves the science intact and no problems when making important
identifications, which, let us remember, require a binomial.

Donald H. Colless
CSIRO Div of Entomology
GPO Box 1700
Canberra 2601
don.colless at csiro.au
tuz li munz est miens envirun

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From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
[taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kim van der Linde
[kim at kimvdlinde.com]
Sent: 16 April 2010 22:59
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Drosophila melanogaster name change?

On 4/16/2010 1:24 AM, Don.Colless at csiro.au wrote:
>
> I just have to say that if one has to extract, prepare, etc., the male

> genitalia to place as fly in a genus, then it's a lousy genus - and 
> what about all the poor females, doomed to languish just as 
> "drosophilids".

Ok, you you propose to lump the genera with in the family Drosophilidae
that are based on genitalia characteristics alone? That would be a
revolution......

Kim

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