[Taxacom] Drosophila melanogaster name change?

Kim van der Linde kim at kimvdlinde.com
Fri Apr 23 06:56:26 CDT 2010


One leg is enough.....

Kim

On 4/23/2010 3:47 AM, Paul Kirk wrote:
> Just squish the females and extract the DNA - voi la, an identification.
>
> You all have a good weekend,
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
> Don.Colless at csiro.au
> Sent: 23 April 2010 08:00
> To: kim at kimvdlinde.com; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Drosophila melanogaster name change?
>
>
> I simply reject the utility of a genus name which cannot be used when
> identifying females, even if here are hundreds of species. There need be
> no systematic problems; the very interesting taxa based on male
> terminalia can be placed as subgenera, which is what they are for. This
> leaves the science intact and no problems when making important
> identifications, which, let us remember, require a binomial.
>
> Donald H. Colless
> CSIRO Div of Entomology
> GPO Box 1700
> Canberra 2601
> don.colless at csiro.au
> tuz li munz est miens envirun
>
> ________________________________________
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kim van der Linde
> [kim at kimvdlinde.com]
> Sent: 16 April 2010 22:59
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Drosophila melanogaster name change?
>
> On 4/16/2010 1:24 AM, Don.Colless at csiro.au wrote:
>>
>> I just have to say that if one has to extract, prepare, etc., the male
>
>> genitalia to place as fly in a genus, then it's a lousy genus - and
>> what about all the poor females, doomed to languish just as
>> "drosophilids".
>
> Ok, you you propose to lump the genera with in the family Drosophilidae
> that are based on genitalia characteristics alone? That would be a
> revolution......
>
> Kim
>
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