[Taxacom] biodiversity databases
s.thorpe at auckland.ac.nz
Sun Feb 7 01:25:20 CST 2010
[David Wagner said] It's how I try to make a living doing taxonomy and the field botany that backs it up
Maybe you could get funding from somewhere to actually do some taxonomy of plants, that is, if there is any funding left after the multitudes of near-identical global bioinformatics projects have taken their slice of the cake? Having to rely on bioinformatics funding to do the very taxonomy that bioinformatics then uses seems rather "incestuous" to me! Who is the hypothetical idiot who said "I know, let's stop funding taxonomy, but fund bioinformatics instead!"
From: David Wagner [davidwagner at mac.com]
Sent: Sunday, 7 February 2010 8:03 p.m.
To: Stephen Thorpe
Cc: Shorthouse, David; taxacom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] biodiversity databases
Note please: this previous thread Stephen quotes took place before my
logging onto taxacom. Interesting.
When did Cyndi Parr offer this suggestion? Has she gotten money for
established scientists to contribute to EOL? Please forward, anybody,
to Cyndi (or anybody at EOL) if you think she (or anybody else) can
help. Cash or check or money order or PayPal, purchase order, mini
grant or maxi grant, contract, debit or invoicable account, private or
public, all OK for me. It's how I try to make a living doing taxonomy
and the field botany that backs it up.
David H. Wagner, Ph.D.
Northwest Botanical Institute
P.O. Box 30064
Eugene, OR 97403-1064
davidwagner at mac.com
On Feb 6, 2010, at 10:30 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> Well, hold on a minute: how does this relate to a previous Taxacom
> thread where I had this exchange with Cyndi Parr:
> [I said] A previous taxacom post by you
>> advertised an initiative whereby young, newly appointed scientists
>> are being offered money to contribute to EOL. I am > not suggesting
>> that there is anything inherently wrong with injecting more money
>> into taxonomy by these means, but it rather does make EOL into a
>> very different beast from Wiki, with LESS (not none, but just less)
>> emphasis on information quality for the end user, and more emphasis
>> on injecting money into taxonomy...
> [she replied] Each early career (not necessarily young) applicant
> has a mentor who is not early career, and, we hope, the engagement
> of other scientists in their research communities. I'm not sure how
> this results in lower
> information quality.Yes, we are investing in taxonomy and other
> biodiversity-related sciences. And to those of you who have written,
> yes we are seeking funding so we can offer mini-grants to
> established scientists, too.
> ... no check? Must be cash, then! :)
> From: David Wagner [davidwagner at mac.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 7 February 2010 7:26 p.m.
> To: Shorthouse, David
> Cc: Stephen Thorpe; taxacom
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] biodiversity databases
> get payment from EOL for contributing your work...no check
> no pun, simply........ no check
> On Feb 6, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Shorthouse, David wrote:
>> Use them to point your funding agencies to....check
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