[Taxacom] data quality vs. data security: a survey
s.thorpe at auckland.ac.nz
Thu Feb 11 19:51:16 CST 2010
thanks Tony, but it is equally easy to pick a counterexample to disprove anything you want! :)
>and you would conclude the opposite (maybe)...
What was I concluding? That Wikispecies is better than AFD? No, actually! I was concluding (at most) that Wikispecies CAN BE better than AFD (or other similar closed edit source), but really not concluding anything but wondering if people value (perceived) data security over data quality, and your counterexample doesn't alter that ...
So, I ask again: in the particular case of Apteropanorpa (Physeter is irrelevant), does AFD (as it is) give you anything over an above what Wikispecies (as it is) gives you?
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Subject: RE: data quality vs. data security: a survey
It is easy to pick an example to prove anything you want. Compare these two pages;
and you would conclude the opposite (maybe)...
Regards - Tony
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Subject: [Taxacom] data quality vs. data security: a survey
I would be interested in readers opinions on this simple question:
taking the particular example of the genus Apteropanorpa, does the closed edit database AFD (http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/abrs/online-resources/fauna/afd/taxa/Apteropanorpa/checklist#selected) give anyone anything useful that the corresponding Wikispecies page (http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Apteropanorpa) does not?
Note that the AFD info is 11 years out of date, but is seen by some as having somehow got "more secure" content.
My view is that the AFD info is either seriously misleading/wrong OR it is neither of those things but tells you nothing useful! It depends if it tells you when it was last updated (and I haven't checked, but I don't see anything obvious). If it doesn't, then the reasonable interpretation by a user would be that there is only one valid species of Apteropanorpa, which is wrong. If it does say that it was last updated in 1998 or something (was it even around then?), then it tells you something true, i.e., that in 1998 there was only one known (valid) species of Apteropanorpa, but that information seems to me to be of little or no practical use...
I am granting for the sake of argument that the AFD info is somehow "more secure" (closed edit), but the question is: would anyone have any good reason to use the AFD info over the Wikispecies info? Note that the question is NOT which would you prefer if both were kept equally up-to-date and reliable, but which would you prefer as things actually are ...
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