[Taxacom] data quality vs. data security: a survey
s.thorpe at auckland.ac.nz
Thu Feb 11 23:28:09 CST 2010
And I also have a foot in both camps, or I wouldn't be promoting both taxonomy and Wikispecies! When I said that Richard had a foot in both camps, that wasn't meant as a put down, though it might depend a little on the exact nature of his interests in each camp...
>We've also argued on Taxacom whether the acronyms actually take money away from taxonomy, or whether they use new, self-promoted money (I think the latter). I'm not sure that matters. When ALA gets tens of millions for chewing over old data and taxonomists get a tiny proportion of that amount for getting new data, something is askew
Well they may not be taking money directly away (though they also may well be), but it is an increasingly easy choice for new graduates to decide whether to get paid megabucks (relativel) to shuffle data around (or grind specimens up and get computers to compare DNA), or pennies for the hard slog of creating new data ...
Funders impressed by the numerical estimates of CoL's "coverage", for example, might think this is a booming and fruitful area to fund even more, while the intrinsically slow hard grind of primary taxonomy begins to look sooo 1758!
From: Bob Mesibov [mesibov at southcom.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 12 February 2010 6:17 p.m.
To: Stephen Thorpe
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] data quality vs. data security: a survey
This is a discussion we've had several times before on Taxacom. Obviously anyone looking at my websites and my own AFD contributions knows that I, too, have one foot in data-generating and another in data-archiving and -mobilising. I've also made it clear that I think Zoobank, that Richard has had so much to do with, is a fantastic idea.
Which has nothing to do with the 'milk comes in cartons' people currently getting generously funded and a lot of respectful attention from governments. Would either of these ALA jobs
suit a taxonomist? What about the many (no doubt competent and sincere) non-taxonomists, non-collectors and managers who attended last year's e-Biosphere tweetfest in London?
The division here isn't between pick-and-shovel people and pick-and-shovel-people-who-also-do-informatics. It's between the old world of biodiversity studies and the loudly self-promoting new world of shuffling around the information generated by those studies. That new world is doing a lot better in 2010 than the old one. It's taking the possibilities seen clearly by Richard and playing with them at great cost.
We've also argued on Taxacom whether the acronyms actually take money away from taxonomy, or whether they use new, self-promoted money (I think the latter). I'm not sure that matters. When ALA gets tens of millions for chewing over old data and taxonomists get a tiny proportion of that amount for getting new data, something is askew.
Dr Robert Mesibov
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Queen Victoria Museum and Art Gallery, and
School of Zoology, University of Tasmania
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