[Taxacom] [SPAM?] Re: In defense of DOIs

Richard Zander Richard.Zander at mobot.org
Wed Feb 17 10:00:40 CST 2010

Well, Flora Online is almost gone. It was the first electronic journal
of any kind to get an ISSN number from Library of Congress, and the 29
issues are presently, as far as I know, archived only here at the
Missouri Botanical Garden, on my personal Web site. 

I do have one set left of the original 5.25" floppy diskettes on which
it was originally published. Now if I just had the old computer these
fit in, and DBase III Plus, and 1990 version of Delta. I've got the ARC
decompression program somewhere around here . . . 

Richard H. Zander 
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Missouri Botanical Garden
PO Box 299
St. Louis, MO 63166-0299 USA
richard.zander at mobot.org
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and http://www.mobot.org/plantscience/bfna/bfnamenu.htm
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-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Roderic Page
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:13 AM
To: Lynn Raw
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] [SPAM?] Re: In defense of DOIs

Dear Lynn,

On 17 Feb 2010, at 14:13, lynn wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation. What happens when publishers go out of
> business or otherwise stop paying the fees? Will the DOI remain in  
> place?

I'm not sure, but the bigger issue is that if the publisher goes out  
of business then the content the DOIs point to may well disappear as  

I'm not aware of a publishing going out of business and the DOIs  
failing (although it has happened to smaller journals without DOIs,
  ). Publishers have been bought, and in that situation the DOIs  
remain unchanged, they just point to the new location of the articles.

This is an argument for having journal articles archived. One strategy  
is for the publisher to submit articles to PubMed Central (either  
straight away if the articles are Open Access, or after an embargo  
period if they aren't). If the publisher itself goes out of business,  
there may well be ways to get CrossRef to point the DOIs to Pubmed  

It would be interesting to know of any "orphan" electronic journals  
where the publisher has gone out of business and the electronic  
content has gone.



> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:15:03 +0000, Roderic Page  
> <r.page at bio.gla.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>> Dear Lynn,
>> The fees you quote are for joining the DOI Foundation, which is a
>> complete different thing! CrossRef is a member of this Foundation, it
>> is the one paying those fees
>> CrossRef handles DOIs for publishers, which pay a fee to CrossRef for
>> that service. These are outlined at
>> http://www.crossref.org/02publishers/20pub_fees.html
>> For a small publisher (making < $US 1,000,000) the annual fee is $US
>> 275. Backfile articles cost 15c per DOI, current content (defined as
>> 2008-2010 costs $1 per DOI.
>> Regards
>> Rod

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