[Taxacom] barcode of life: PS
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Mon Jul 5 09:41:27 CDT 2010
On 7/4/2010 9:37 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> The point is that IF the human height frequency distribution was flat
> (which it isn't), then the concept of short/average/tall would have
> less "reality" than it actually does, and could only be purely arbitrary.
I agree that it would have less "reality". I agree that it would be
"arbitrary". Where I disagree is the idea that the actual perception of
the actual distribution is not arbitrary. I pointed out a reason why I
think a bell curve causes us to perceive the tails of the distribution
> On the other hand, if everybody were to die out except for a narrow
> band around the average and at each extreme, then the
> short/average/tall distinction would be far more real than it actually
> As it is, it is not completely arbitrary, but not that good either.
We evidently disagree on "how it is".
> So, similarly, the reality of species distinctions depends on what is
> out there in the world. If reproductive isolation is mostly either all
> or nothing, then species are very "real". If it is mostly 50% (or
> random) then species do not represent reality very well at all. I say
> it is pretty good. Rich seems to disagree, and says things which
> sometimes suggest complete arbitrariness (like shortness on a flat
> height distribution) ...
Perception is based on phenotype, which responds not only to gene flow
but also to selection. And, as I've pointed out, perception does not
always reflect "reality".
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