[Taxacom] online publishing

dipteryx at freeler.nl dipteryx at freeler.nl
Fri Jul 23 03:53:04 CDT 2010

Van: dipteryx at freeler.nl [mailto:dipteryx at freeler.nl]
Verzonden: vr 23-7-2010 9:48
Aan: Dave Roberts
CC: dipteryx at freeler.nl
Onderwerp: Re: [Taxacom] online publishing
Dear Dave,

that is not quite true. With paper the problems were fairly quickly
recognized and a library system grew that marked dates of receipt
and that securely filed copies.

Who is to mark dates of receipt and securely file copies of e-only
publications? That is the big question.

Focusing on formats is likely to just generate a headache, but if
there is no clarity on the filing of e-only publications, it is
inevitable to look at formats ...


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Van: Dave Roberts [mailto:workpackage6 at googlemail.com]
Verzonden: vr 23-7-2010 8:28
Aan: dipteryx at freeler.nl
Onderwerp: Re: [Taxacom] online publishing

Dear Paul,

the same criticisms could have been made of paper, especially in the 
early days of printing.

Paper copies do not guarantee permanence and have a significant upkeep 
cost.  It is also very hard to access.  It is hard to find a usable 
original from the 1930s from Russia these days because of the acid 
content of the paper.  We have photocopies that preserve the content.

Its not about formats: its about confidence.

Cheers,  Dave
On 22 Jul 2010, at 17:34, <dipteryx at freeler.nl> <dipteryx at freeler.nl> 

> Van: Donat Agosti [mailto:agosti at amnh.org]
> Verzonden: do 22-7-2010 17:49
>> It is not about formats: it is about reading content online
>> rather than hard cover.
>> If it where about format, then I would make the argument and
>> stress, that, just as you point out with your discussion below,
>> should not have it own format but be rather generic and
>> with the content with some basic semantic mark-up.
>> The other point is, that it has to be open access and
>> archived somewhere with a high probability of sustainability.
>> Donat
> ***
> For nomenclatural purposes, it is first and foremost about permanence:
> the guarantee that the document has not been altered.
> As pointed out before, one of the ways to assure this for electronic
> documents would be to have copies (of the entire publication, or at
> least of the nomenclaturally relevant part) deposited, at publication,
> in a central archive. Ideally this archive would be on-line, open 
> access, etc. Another, lesser, option would be to extend special
> recognition to some high-quality e-journals, each with its own
> permanent archive.
> Otherwise, without deposited copies, it IS about formats, formats that
> guarantee an unaltered document. Whether that is possible? I guess 
> that even with quite limited means, PDFs can be altered: those with 
> more
> technical ability could be probably be quite convincing.
> Paul
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