[Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!

Donat Agosti agosti at amnh.org
Thu May 6 02:52:44 CDT 2010

That's why it would be good to produce the papers as XML documents (such as
Lyubo just posted: using taxpub as an example) making use of the NLM DTD,
and the system behind, such as the archiving in PubMed Central. The chance
that this will disappear is probably the lowest possible. Using XML also
allows to include domain specific mark-up to a rather fine level if produced
directly from databases. If publishers and authors make an effort to link to
respective databases for names, images then we are really in the world of


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Croft [mailto:jim.croft at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:13 PM
To: Stephen Thorpe
Cc: Paul Kirk; Donat Agosti; TaxaCom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!

PDF is hardly an archival format... In fact I think it is reasonable
to worry about any electronic format as being archival...


On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Stephen Thorpe
<stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
> Regarding covertly changing electronic copies, the crucial thing is for
there to be a requirement for an electronic copy to be officially deposited
in some appropriate electronic repository where it is archived as a read
only PDF ...
>>why would anyone want to do that?
> Why do vandals vandalise, forgers forge, ... ?
> ________________________________
> From: Paul Kirk <p.kirk at cabi.org>
> To: Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org>; TaxaCom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 7:25:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!
> there is nothing in the botanical Code which prevent anyone from
downloading a published on-line 'pre-print' and printing multiple (more than
one) identical copies at 'one time' (i.e. not print on demand) and
delivering them to more than one library ... I know, I did it back in 2008
(http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=511980). The
more people who work the Code in this way the more pressure there will be to
change the Codes to reflect the reality of the 21st century. And there will
always be paper copies (even though we add environmental messages to our
emails) and electronic copies can be changed - but why would anyone want to
do that? and if someone did the Codes could deal with it ... couldn't they?
> Paul
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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Donat Agosti
> Sent: 06 May 2010 08:12
> To: 'TaxaCom'
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!
> It is also not the first time Linnaeus meets the internet. This happened
earlier in PLoS One
> http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001787 
in 2008. There was also a lengthy heated debate in ICZN list about whether
this was correct or not, even though advice from the ICZN commission has
been thought beforehand. It might also have been important in moving the
Commission towards dealing electronic publications.
> Donat

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