[Taxacom] Sorry, but you are out-of-line
deepreef at bishopmuseum.org
Sun Nov 14 21:55:00 CST 2010
This reminds me of a conversation Jim and I had over a decade ago about the
dreaded "C" word ["Centralization"]. What I advocated for back then is what
I advocate now:
"Centralization" in the sense that EVERYONE shares the same idnetifiers to
the shared data objects when building data cross-links; but "Distributed" in
the senese that EVERYONE has their own local copy of the COMPLETE shared
dataset, which they can use as they see fit.
The *only* requirements for such a system are:
1) A robust mechanism for maintaining synchrony among the datasets; and
2) A core set of community-generated and -agreed policies to mitigate the
amplifiction of crap data in the shared datasets.
I see NO OTHER WAY to progress in our community without FULL AND DIRECT OPEN
ACCESS to shared electronic data content (at least the non-copyrightable
stuff, like taxon names, literature citations, etc.), based on a mechanism
that ensures MASSIVE (but harmonized) redundancy across the plant. Fail
either of these two critera, and it's just not worth the effort.
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Croft
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:10 PM
> To: Stephen Thorpe
> Cc: TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Sorry, but you are out-of-line
> This does not worry me at all. Different interfaces to
> different questions, different purposes - horses for courses,
> tools for the job.
> The real nightmare is different (and worse incompatable)
> underlying standards and the inability to get a single view
> of the whole lot, with all the duplication and
> incompatability resolved.
> Centralism is one way (the technically easy way, becasue
> everybody tries it) to deal with this, but the thought of a
> single taxonomic/nomenclatural/biodiversity monolithic
> juggernaut fills me with abject fear and dread.
> Ask any major institution - centralism is fine, as long as it
> does not happen 'at that other place'... :)
> jim (a distributed and replicated, belt and braces kida guy;
> a guy who is not only glass half empty, but who is scared
> shitless because the container is made of glass)
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Stephen Thorpe
> <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
> > ... on the other hand, the problem with biodiversity informatics
> > projects (lime CoL, EoL, GBIF, WoRMS, etc.) is that although they
> > share their data, they all want to create their own interfaces ...
> Jim Croft ~ jim.croft at gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~
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