[Taxacom] Sorry, but you are out-of-line

Richard Pyle deepreef at bishopmuseum.org
Sun Nov 14 22:49:16 CST 2010

> I am not troubled by "duplication" in the sense 
> of multiple copies of the same data for the 
> sake of data security. 

...and direct local access (high-performance queries that do not need to
cross the internet)

> What troubles me is duplication of effort, 
> especially when all that duplication is being funded. 


> I assume that it would cost next to nothing just 
> to make and distribute copies of content? No problem ...

That's the idea.
> these *only* requirements are both *huge* requirements, 

Not so much the first one.  Lots of solutions there, with appropriate
checkums and verifications, etc.

But the second one...well, in principle it should be easy.  But given the
nature of our particular community (evidenced by recent threads)....OK, I'll
give you that one as "Huge".

> I take it you don't care if someone like Makhan disagrees, 
> but where do you draw the line? If you can come up with 
> a mechanism, agreed to by the taxonomic community, to 
> resolve issues of data conflict, then I will be impressed! 

I don't know who "Makhan" is, but the "shared" dataset I was talking about
is factual.

For example, the statement: "Aus bus is a synonym of Aus xus" is not a fact;
it's an opinion.  However, this statement is a fact: "Smith (1950) treated
Aus bus is a synonym of Aus xus" [where Smith et al. (1950) is a
representation of a full literature citation]. It's the latter sort of thing
I would like us to all have direct access to.  Whether or not we chose to
follow Smith (1950) is a decision that is made externally to the "Globally
Shared Biodiversity Data Resourse" (GSBDR).

> try defining "crap data" in an objective and rigorous fashion! 

By "crap" I meant non-factual, typographically inacurate, or duplicate
record instances.  That Smith (1950) regarded Aus bus as a synonym of Aus
xus is only "crap" if there is no publication of Smith 1950, or if that
publication did not regard Aus bus as a synonym of Aus xus, or if that
publication actually spelled it "Auus bus" and "Auus xus".

The "crappiness" of Smith's taxonomic judgement is not of concern in this


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