[Taxacom] saturday morning fun

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Sat Nov 27 18:40:16 CST 2010

good point Geoff

perhaps it will sort itself out when they finally catch up with the fact that 
the beetle genus is now Marvaldiella ... though after 11 years, I'm not sure 
when that will be ...

me thinks homonymy = egg in the face of many an "acronym"

From: Geoffrey Read <gread at actrix.gen.nz>
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 1:31:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] saturday morning fun

Many points probably, but looking at it again it sure is disconcerting
that it's impossible to get to gbif genus Mimus pure bird only.

The bird genus aggregated should be under
http://data.gbif.org/species/16058468. But that only loads the apparent
beetle genus titled page (albeit seemingly aggregated with the bird
records) at http://data.gbif.org/species/13160516.

Not much fun at all actually.

On Sun, November 28, 2010 12:01 pm, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> I rather think Geoff is missing the point ... but at any rate, why is the
> beetle
> genus Mimus an accepted name on GBIF when it was replaced with a new name,
> due
> to the homonymy, in 1999  (11 years ago)??? See:
> http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mimus

> ________________________________
> From: Geoffrey Read <gread at actrix.gen.nz>
> To: Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 11:07:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] saturday morning fun
> The bird genus homonym is way senior to the beetle genus and on the beetle
> genus page there is a disambiguation warning thus, with a direct link to
> the bird genus.
> The name Mimus is ambiguous and also refers to:
>     * Kingdom: Animalia
>     * Phylum: Chordata
>     * Class: Aves
>     * Order: Passeriformes
>     * Family: Mimidae
>     * Genus: Mimus
> But stir away. I tend to agree  an aggregator should be able to auto
> prevent such Huh! moments.
> Geoff
> On Sun, November 28, 2010  Wolfgang wrote:
>> GBF has more than 267 million occurrence records.
>> No doubt, there is some quality in that quantity - accessible for those
>> who
>> have plenty of time and knowhow to tickle it out. Much easier to see
>> some
>> of
>> the most spectacular errors:
>> E.g. this:
>> GBIF informs us they have 4.485.773 records for Insecta Coleoptera.
>> Of these, 643.863 georeferenced records ("from a total of 583.664
>> records"
>> [sic!]) are displayed on the map for a single nearctic species: "Mimus
>> polyglottos", the Northern Mockingbird, a curculionid beetle species
>> which
>> has some subspecies belonging to birds.
>> ..... but, okay, they wanted to arrive at full operational status in
>> 2011
>> (according to GBIF's own strategic plan)
>> Cheers,
>> Wolfgang
>> -----------------------------------
>> Wolfgang Lorenz, Tutzing, Germany

Geoffrey B. Read, Ph.D.
8 Zaida Way, Maupuia
Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
gread at actrix.gen.nz

Geoffrey B. Read, Ph.D.
8 Zaida Way, Maupuia
Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
gread at actrix.gen.nz


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