[Taxacom] IPBES: a new challenge (not for cynics)

Fabian Haas fhaas at icipe.org
Tue Jan 11 07:54:01 CST 2011


Sure, but as this will work only for new publication, it will take time 
to build up a body of literature. Basically I agree with you, it should 
not be like that.
As it stands, publishers are private companies that profit from public 
money in this way (research results) ad that way (subscription). I share 
your concerns!

On 11.01.11 15:50, Donat Agosti wrote:
> This seems to me a too easy an answer. If we do not control where and how we
> publish then we better don't since our knowledge and data is out of our
> control. Also from the point of view I can not accept that I pay your
> research and then have to pay again for publication to a publisher over
> which I have no control.
>
> The lesson for the future then has to be to change the system so we control
> it. There are good starting points such as zookeys at Pensoft which is full
> oa, or others like Zootaxa that offer at least the option (that
> unfortunately far too few of us chose). Another lesson from our community is
> to make it mandatory to publish Open access. And if would be to my taste
> make the publications machine readable and all the underlying data has to be
> linked. We should really invest in our future to avoid the pitfalls your
> refer to. But this is an old issue..
>
> Donat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Welter-Schultes
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>> We still publish works that are
>> difficult to get, almost impossible to mine and with little access
>> to the underlying data.
> A big part of the problem is outside our direct responsibility:
> international copyright laws and conventions restrict access to a
> large part of the scientific information published between 1920 and
> 2000. It would be necessary to teach international politics that
> there is no sense in applying the same copyright laws for scientific
> and non-scientific publications, and to open an discussion in
> international bodies to change the conventions.
>
> Francisco
> University of Goettingen, Germany
> www.animalbase.org
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