[Taxacom] IPBES: a new challenge (not for cynics)

Donat Agosti agosti at amnh.org
Tue Jan 11 08:46:08 CST 2011


If we publish every year 17-20'000 new species and about five time the
amount of redescriptions, this is already a huge body of information per
year. And we can not process this retrospectively, not even to make all of
them available as pdf, not to speak in forms we could feed into EOL, or
Wikipedia.

the only way forwards is to change and make sure they are born in a way we
can use them straight of the press.

Donat


> Sure, but as this will work only for new publication, it will take time
> to build up a body of literature. Basically I agree with you, it should
> not be like that.
> As it stands, publishers are private companies that profit from public
> money in this way (research results) ad that way (subscription). I share
> your concerns!
>
> On 11.01.11 15:50, Donat Agosti wrote:
>> This seems to me a too easy an answer. If we do not control where and
>> how we
>> publish then we better don't since our knowledge and data is out of our
>> control. Also from the point of view I can not accept that I pay your
>> research and then have to pay again for publication to a publisher over
>> which I have no control.
>>
>> The lesson for the future then has to be to change the system so we
>> control
>> it. There are good starting points such as zookeys at Pensoft which is
>> full
>> oa, or others like Zootaxa that offer at least the option (that
>> unfortunately far too few of us chose). Another lesson from our
>> community is
>> to make it mandatory to publish Open access. And if would be to my taste
>> make the publications machine readable and all the underlying data has
>> to be
>> linked. We should really invest in our future to avoid the pitfalls your
>> refer to. But this is an old issue..
>>
>> Donat
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Francisco
>> Welter-Schultes
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:33 PM
>> To: TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] IPBES: a new challenge (not for cynics)
>>
>>> We still publish works that are
>>> difficult to get, almost impossible to mine and with little access
>>> to the underlying data.
>> A big part of the problem is outside our direct responsibility:
>> international copyright laws and conventions restrict access to a
>> large part of the scientific information published between 1920 and
>> 2000. It would be necessary to teach international politics that
>> there is no sense in applying the same copyright laws for scientific
>> and non-scientific publications, and to open an discussion in
>> international bodies to change the conventions.
>>
>> Francisco
>> University of Goettingen, Germany
>> www.animalbase.org
>>
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