[Taxacom] labeling redescriptions properly

Michael A. Ivie mivie at montana.edu
Thu Sep 8 18:40:05 CDT 2011


how does one understand Sorghastrum secundum secundum (Smith, 1969)? as a
subspecies or a subsequent meaning?


> yes, but citing (purported) facts is very different to citing names!
>  
>>If we write "Formica sanguinea (Smith, 1851)" we have trouble reading
>> this as: "The facts stated by Smith 1851 about the organism named Formica
>> sanguinea" and interpret it in a nomenclatural fashion
>  
> that's because it is equivalent to writing "ant (Smith, 1851)", or
> "elephant (Smith, 1851)", or ..., and makes no sense!
>  
>
> From: Gregor Hagedorn <g.m.hagedorn at gmail.com>
> To: fwelter at gwdg.de; TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] labeling redescriptions properly
>
> I think the root of our request is that we have a conflict of citation
> notations between nomenclature and the rest of science.
>
> If we write a factual statement  "a is X (Smith 1979)" we would
> recognize this as a Harvard style citation.
>
> If we write "Formica sanguinea (Smith, 1851)" we have trouble reading
> this as: "The facts stated by Smith 1851 about the organism named
> Formica sanguinea" and interpret it in a nomenclatural fashion.
>
> I largely agree with what Francisco writes, but how best do we cite if
> the citation needs to be brief? What do we write if we do not mean
> nomenclatural type, but citing facts reported in a specific
> publication? What will be understood by most?
>
> I agree that sensu, although literally correct, has a history of being
> used only when necessary because the usage was in the wrong sense
> (else nothing would be written). "Secundum" has therefore been
> introduced as a replacement term.
>
> ::: by the way: WHO INTRODUCED "secundum"?
>
> So is "secundum" the best form to cite information about a taxon?
>
> Gregor
>
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