[Taxacom] A small nomenclatural detail?

Tony.Rees at csiro.au Tony.Rees at csiro.au
Thu Sep 15 00:52:51 CDT 2011


That's what I meant...

Cheers - Tony
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kirk [mailto:p.kirk at cabi.org]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 3:52 PM
> To: Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart); john.steel at botany.otago.ac.nz;
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: RE: A small nomenclatural detail?
> 
> not quite ...
> 
> authorship of names refers only to validly published names - names not
> validly published are not names. So, in the first example you are
> correct because the authorship is 'D.A. Webb' but the Code allows the
> insertion of other 'authorship' before an 'ex' to indicate origins of
> the 'non existant' name. Your second example would only be correct if
> 'Mill.' had validly published a name and the epithet was being
> transferret to a new position or rank; if the status of the 'Mill.'
> name was as in your first example it could be cited 'Mill. ex D.A.
> Webb' - not as you indicated.
> 
> Hope this is clear,
> 
> Paul
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Tony.Rees at csiro.au [Tony.Rees at csiro.au]
> Sent: 15 September 2011 00:36
> To: Paul Kirk; john.steel at botany.otago.ac.nz;
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: RE: A small nomenclatural detail?
> 
> So Paul, if I understand you correctly, elsewhere in Botany the sense
> you are describing would correctly be conveyed by:
> 
>   Prunus dulcis Mill. ex D.A. Webb   - expressing that Webb's work is
> the first valid publication of Miller's name, previously not validly
> published
> 
> On the other hand if the intention was simply to refer to a new
> combination (change in genus placement) or change of rank, Prunus
> dulcis (Mill.) D.A. Webb would be the correct orthography (probably
> what is intended here).
> 
> Regards - Tony
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-
> > bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Kirk
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 7:59 AM
> > To: John Steel; 'taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu'
> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] A small nomenclatural detail?
> >
> > It was used in mycology when we had later starting points to enclose
> > the authors of pre-starting point 'devalidated names' ... it should
> be
> > discouraged as it just confuses users (outside taxonomy) of names.
> >
> > Paul
> > ________________________________________
> > From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-
> > bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] on behalf of John Steel
> > [john.steel at botany.otago.ac.nz]
> > Sent: 14 September 2011 22:01
> > To: 'taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu'
> > Subject: [Taxacom] A small nomenclatural detail?
> >
> > I recently came across the following journal usage where square
> > brackets were used instead of the more usual ( )-brackets.  Is there
> a
> > suggested recommended format for this or is it just one of those
> > independent actions by someone wanting to be different?
> >
> >
> > Prunus dulcis [Mill.] D.A. Webb
> >
> > Thanks for your time.
> >
> > John Steel.
> >
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