[Taxacom] EOL announces call for 'research wishes'
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Wed Aug 22 15:36:34 CDT 2012
probably, it is more an issue of value for money. Sure, EoL may throw a few pennies to the peasants from time to time, but funding a few meetings (especially in today's world where we are all connected by the web anyway) isn't going to do much to help the biodiversity crisis ...
From: Dean Pentcheff <pentcheff at gmail.com>
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2012 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] EOL announces call for 'research wishes'
The primary goal of EOL is not and has never been to fund primary
systematics (despite what many people may wish), so it's not
reasonable to evaluate them on that basis.
They have, however, provided substantive support to focused systematic
groups with synthesis meetings funded through the Biodiversity
Synthesis Group at the Field Museum. Before concluding that EOL has
been useless to systematists, you may wish to speak with some of the
participants in the dozens of meetings they have fully funded:
Doubtless many of you will look at the list of meetings they've funded
and fault them for not covering your very important taxon of interest.
If that's the case, I urge you to contact BioSynC and inquire about
organizing a meeting. In my experience they've been extremely helpful,
accomodating, and eager to fund good proposals.
pentcheff at gmail.com
dpentche at nhm.org
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Nadia Talent <nadia.talent at utoronto.ca> wrote:
> to be fair to EOL, those trinkets are not the only things they have offered to the taxonomic community, or to peripheral elements of that community. They have run various competitions with prizes, such as the Education Innovation Challenge with a prize to be divided among one or more contestants totalling US$50,000
> and the Phylogenetic Tree Challenge with the prize an all-expenses-paid trip to a conference
> Whether that is the best way to fund the enterprise is surely a separate question, one equally applicable to government funding agencies.
> On 2012-08-22, at 2:15 , Robert Mesibov wrote:
>> Ken Walker wrote:
>> "Why is it that when someone tries to do some good for the community, people throw stones at them?"
>> Not sure what you're referring to here, but my own post was a comment on Peter Rauch's. He pictured a dying world, for which EOL care is appropriate and punning.
>> Also not sure what you're referring to with 'when someone tries to do some good for the community'. What community was Cyn Parr addressing? And 'someone' is a rather disingenuous, gentle way of describing a massive organisation kick-started in 2007 with US$50 million.
>> Its current mission is 'To increase awareness and understanding of living nature through an Encyclopedia of Life that gathers, generates, and shares knowledge in an open, freely accessible and trusted digital resource' (http://eol.org/about), but EOL publicity continues to promote a different goal, 'documenting every living plant and animal species on the globe' (http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/07/one-million-species-and-counting/), as though EOL staff hired or funded taxonomic work or was an important part of the worldwide taxonomic effort.
>> Not so. Getting back to 'the community', the 'wishes' program invites 'Anyone with a strong interest in science' (http://eol.org/info/aug_16_2012) to ask for EOL's help.
>> That's help, not money. As explained on EOL's 'wishes' page:
>> 'EOL will thank winners for their leadership and inspiration with their choice of the following limited edition, personalized EOL-themed gifts, emblazoned with the EOL logo and your choice of images from our collection:
>> · Caffeinated EOL: a set of six 15oz mugs
>> · EOL Tech: a mousepad, a smartphone case and a portable USB power supply
>> · EOL outdoors: a hooded sweatshirt, a field bag and a stainless steel water bottle or Thermos
>> · EOL@ home: a shower curtain and a 50”x60” fleece throw blanket
>> Dr Robert Mesibov
>> Honorary Research Associate
>> Queen Victoria Museum and Art Gallery, and
>> School of Agricultural Science, University of Tasmania
>> Home contact: PO Box 101, Penguin, Tasmania, Australia 7316
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