[Taxacom] when is a common species critically endangered?

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Tue Jun 26 20:25:52 CDT 2012

Interesting Geoff, but do you think that the mite deserves THE SAME threat status as the host plant? I'm not saying that the mite doesn't deserve any threat level classification, just that it doesn't warrant "Nationally Critical" (at least not for the sole reason that the host plant has this status) ...
Cheers, Stephen

From: Geoff Read <gread at actrix.gen.nz>
To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz> 
Cc: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] when is a common species critically endangered?

Just a caveat on the success of this host plant in cultivation (really up
against it to survive in the wild without human help). Clianthus maximus
might be widely _attempted_ to be grown, from commercial cultivars (likely
to be low in genetic diversity). But introduced snails still defoliate it,
it's not a good competitor with other plants, and it's not very long
lived.  Altogether hard work to keep & won't flourish without help from
those who plant it. Great for the garden shops repeat business, until
maybe it goes out of fashion, as plants do.

Noting I'm glad to live in a country where people are still able to worry
about the exact conservation status of mites (and snails, worms, and
insects), and be taken seriously by politicians - albeit as long as there
isn't mineral wealth beneath the habitat.


On Wed, June 27, 2012 12:11 pm, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> Thanks Ken ... perhaps even just "vulnerable" is the appropriate category?
> It is not threatened, as such, for as long as Clianthus is widely
> cultivated in gardens and parks, and there is no indication that this will
> change ...

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