[Taxacom] when is a common species critically endangered?

Daniel Whitmore whitmore.daniel at gmail.com
Wed Jun 27 02:25:12 CDT 2012

Might the mite fight the bite of the night and ignite quite a fright in the
light or in spite of these questions?


2012/6/27 Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>

> also, they rather dubiously dismissed the record of the mite from the
> introduced plant Lotus corniculatus as just being due to the recent
> presence at the same site of Clianthus, as if it meant nothing. Yet, Lotus
> is in the same family as Clianthus, and the record is *some* evidence that
> the mite can survive on other, related plants if it has to, perhaps in
> numbers too low to show the characteristic galls, and the mites themselves
> are too small to be seen otherwise ...
> ________________________________
> From: Geoff Read <gread at actrix.gen.nz>
> To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> Cc: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] when is a common species critically endangered?
> Just a caveat on the success of this host plant in cultivation (really up
> against it to survive in the wild without human help). Clianthus maximus
> might be widely _attempted_ to be grown, from commercial cultivars (likely
> to be low in genetic diversity). But introduced snails still defoliate it,
> it's not a good competitor with other plants, and it's not very long
> lived.  Altogether hard work to keep & won't flourish without help from
> those who plant it. Great for the garden shops repeat business, until
> maybe it goes out of fashion, as plants do.
> Noting I'm glad to live in a country where people are still able to worry
> about the exact conservation status of mites (and snails, worms, and
> insects), and be taken seriously by politicians - albeit as long as there
> isn't mineral wealth beneath the habitat.
> Geoff
> On Wed, June 27, 2012 12:11 pm, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> > Thanks Ken ... perhaps even just "vulnerable" is the appropriate
> category?
> > It is not threatened, as such, for as long as Clianthus is widely
> > cultivated in gardens and parks, and there is no indication that this
> will
> > change ...
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