[Taxacom] Morphological molecular reconciliation again (was erecting or sinking higher taxa

Richard Zander Richard.Zander at mobot.org
Sun Oct 14 10:47:11 CDT 2012


Yes, that's it! Orangutans may be the progenitors of all chimps, gorillas, humans, bonabos and extinct human-like shamblers in the African forests. Is there another explanation of the molecular pattern given the morphological data you vouch for? The sister group of homo is an orangutan clade that is now extinct but makes orangutan a paraphyletic group. 
 
Another explanation that does not just throw out conflicting information? What is it?
 
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From: John Grehan [mailto:calabar.john at gmail.com]
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To: Richard Zander
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Subject: Morphological molecular reconciliation again (was erecting or sinking higher taxa

 

	Suppose that there is an orangutan sister group to humans that is now extinct. 


If this extinct sister group is closer to humans than orangutans, and therefore an extinct sister group to humans, it is not an orangutan sistergroup since that entity would encompass all living and extinct taxa comprising the human clade, and those comprising an orangutan clade.
 



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