[Taxacom] CDROM / DVD Publication

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Tue Sep 4 16:05:05 CDT 2012


I guess Moses' tablets are no longer valid!! :)


From: Gary Rosenberg <rosenberg at ansp.org>
To: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2012 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] CDROM / DVD Publication

Hi Paul,

You're correct; in principle there could be works other than on CD-ROM produced by a "method that assures numerous identical and durable copies" that have now been retroactively disallowed. However, the Commission is not aware of any such works; none were reported in the almost four year period since the draft amendment was published. If any do surface, the Commission can be asked to rule that they be considered published.

Best wishes,
Gary Rosenberg
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University


-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul van Rijckevorsel
Sent: September 04, 2012 11:54 AM
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] CDROM / DVD Publication

Chris, I got that. My query was a different one. The wording in the last two editions allowed a great deal more latitude than the new amendment which allows only optical discs, in read-only memory form.

Under the previous wording any "method that assures numerous identical and durable copies" was allowed, so that arguably any of  a number of carriers could be used, in addition to optical discs (CD-ROM/DVD). Again, I don't have the faintest idea if any not-on-paper publication was ever issued on a carrier other than optical disc. What is clear is that any names published on such a carrier have now ceased to exist (retroactively).

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Thompson" <xelaalex at cox.net>
To: "Paul van Rijckevorsel" <dipteryx at freeler.nl>; <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: CDROM / DVD Publication


> Paul:
>
> It is only now a historical footnote, but in regards to CDROM
> publications,
>
> There is at least one CDROM serial***:
>
> The Diptera Data Dissemination Disk, issued in Washington DC ISSN
> 1521-0014
>
> There have been only TWO volumes, first on December 1998 and second, March
> 2004
>
> When that first volume was issued, it was valid under the 3rd edition of
> ICZN (red book). You need to remember about the original CDROM technology.
> In the beginning, disks were STAMPed***, that is, the same as printing.
> Hence, they met the criterion of Art. 8 (a) (3) of "... simultaneously
> obtainable copies by a method that assures numerous identical copies." AND
> they were not excluded by Art. 9.
>
> By the time the editorial board was working on the 4th edition, we added
> Art. 8.6 to ensure that these special publications would be properly
> archived in "... at least 5 major publicly accessible libraries ..."
>
> What is important here is that technology improved and most CDROM / DVD
> are no longer produced by stamping out disks, but are written by lasers
> burning a dye, etc., and therefore do not meet Art. 8.1.3.
>
> So, when the discussion came up by the new editorial group, it was decided
> to simply eliminate all these type of publications, etc. but history had
> to be protected, etc.
>
> And that is the problem of codes of nomenclature, rules for the present
> and future, but also ensure what was properly done in the past is also
> available.
>
> Oh, well ...
>
> Sincerely
>
> Chris Thompson
>
> *** I do not know remember, but I believe back in the late 1990s and early
> 2000s there were other CDROM publications, etc.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Paul van Rijckevorsel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 3:39 AM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] e-only publication for zoology, starts today
>
> I see. This is big news, indeed. However, as I understand it,
> e-only publication does not start today, but had started
> (retroactively) on 1 January 2012. This means that the same
> date applies for both botany (including mycology, etc) and
> zoology.
>
> Interesting also that any name published on a carrier other
> than optical disc or printed on paper stops existing. I am
> unsure if there are such names (actually, were such names).
>
> The wonders of retroactivity. In botany (etc) e-only
> publication is allowed from 1 January 2012, based on a
> Code that still has not been published and in zoology
> e-only publication is allowed from 1 January 2012,
> based on an amendment that was made know only on
> 4 September 2012!
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> To: <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:52 AM
> Subject: [Taxacom] e-only publication for zoology, starts today
>
>
> rumour confirmed ... check Zootaxa and/or ZooKeys in 10 minutes for full
> details ...
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> To: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2012 2:14 PM
> Subject: e-only publication for zoology, starts today?
>
>
> unconfirmed rumour, but very likely that e-only publication for zoology,
> starts today
>
> Stephen
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