[Taxacom] e-only publication for zoology, starts today

Richard Pyle deepreef at bishopmuseum.org
Wed Sep 5 00:28:41 CDT 2012

Hi Stephen,


Sorry for not having seen this prior to responding to your previous note.
I'm slogging my way through hundreds of emails that have arrived in my inbox
during the past 24 hours, all through dial-up speed internet connection.


Anyone can see if a work is in compliance simply by seeing the name of the
Archive (which is displayed). The architecture is such that it is not
possible to include an Archive unless it also has a URL.  By popular demand,
we will, of course, add the Archives URL to the display as well as the name.
But until that happens, you can be certain that if the name of an Archive is
displayed, then the URL is in ZooBank as well.





From: Stephen Thorpe [mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:13 PM
To: Richard Pyle; 'Paul van Rijckevorsel'; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] e-only publication for zoology, starts today


I have discovered answers to issues (i) and (ii) below:

(i) registration date/time is visible if you point the mouse in the right
place (though this fact is far from obvious!)

(ii) apparently, the internet address of the online archive is there, but
not visible, even to a ZooBank editor like myself trying to edit the record.
This means that only ZooBank itself can verify that a registration has been
done correctly, specifically that it upholds Art. I'm not sure that
this is how things are supposed to be ...


From: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
To: Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>; 'Paul van Rijckevorsel'
<dipteryx at freeler.nl>; "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu"
<taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, 5 September 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] e-only publication for zoology, starts today

Rich (CC Taxacom),

I have some questions:

(1) What if electronic and paper versions of a work are published
simultaneously? Which version are the new names made available in?

(2) related to (1), electronic and paper versions of a journal usually have
different ISSNs, making them effectively different journals. So, if a name
is published first electronically, and then on paper, although it is clear
that any new names date from the electronic version, it isn't clear if the
paper names have any independent nomenclatural status (synonymic
homonyms??), in the same way that it is unclear (to me, anyway) what would
happen if the same work was published in two different print journals...

(3) At any rate, Zootaxa (at least) has already started registering new
names as available from the e-version (though it is unclear if the print
version is still published simultaneously?) Looking at an example ZooBank
entry (http://zoobank.org/References/7F7302A9-24AD-4F37-8B25-146B64CA1F3D),
I see two potential problems:

(i) it doesn't seem to tell me the date and time of registration, so I can't
verify that it was before publication!

(ii) the internet address of the online archive (National Digital Heritage
Archive of The National Library of New Zealand) is not specified, thus
apprently in breach of Art. (and note that "admissible errors"
applies only to the work itself, not the ZooBank registration!)

I look forward to your responses,

Cheers, Stephen

From: Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
To: 'Paul van Rijckevorsel' <dipteryx at freeler.nl>;
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] e-only publication for zoology, starts today

> A question that immediately raises itself, is if there have been names (or
> nomenclatural acts) that have been published earlier in the year that now
> suddenly come into existence?

Technically that's not possible, because before one hour ago, it was not
possible to comply with the requirements of the Amendment within ZooBank
(i.e., the old ZooBank did not allow designation of an Archive).

> Or in other words, what is the first zoological name that was published by
> only means, or is this still to be registered?

I'll think we'll be finding out soon.  But which is more interesting:  first
registered, or first published?  Also, I suspect that most existing journals
will not instantly drop the paper edition of the journal, so it may be a
while before we see the first e-"only" published name.  But there may seon
be examples where the date of publication for purposes of priority come from
the e-edition, rather than the paper edition (if the e-edition complies with
the Amendment, and is published prior to the paper edition).


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