[Taxacom] e-publication of EarlyView: clarification needed
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Wed Sep 12 17:24:49 CDT 2012
Thank you Lyubo! You have confirmed my suspicion that everyone is going to understand Art. 21.8.3 differently (you understand it as I do), which is a potential problem. It isn't so bad for ZooKeys or Zootaxa, because of the particular way that they publish, but I believe that the Commission may not have given due consideration to the fact that other publishers do things differently! Zootaxa is actually a unique example, because one person has complete control over all aspects of management and production, whereas Peter Cranston is in a rather different situation ...
From: Lyubomir Penev <lyubo.penev at gmail.com>
To: Frank.Krell at dmns.org
Cc: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; ZhangZ at landcareresearch.co.nz; pscranston at gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2012 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] e-publication of EarlyView: clarification needed
I fully agree that the firstly published e-version that satisfy the Amendment should be considered as a validly published version, but assigning terms as "pre-print", "early-view", "author-version", or "pre-publication" to these versions is not only awkward, it is also highly misleading because people expect another "final" version will be published.
The amendment is quite clear in saying:
21.8.3. Some works are accessible online in preliminary versions before the publication date of the final version. Such advance electronic access does not advance the date of publication of a work, as preliminary versions are not published (Article 9.9).
Article 9. What does not constitute published work. Notwithstanding the provisions of Article 8, none of the following constitutes published work within the meaning of the Code:
9.9. preliminary versions of works accessible electronically in advance of publication (see Article 21.8.3);
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM, <Frank.Krell at dmns.org> wrote:
>If an electronic 'pre-publication' is the version of record, i.e. the version that the publisher delivers to an archive, then it is published and available in the sense of he Amendment. Wiley-Blackwell, for example, only publishes (or 'pre-publishes' - what an awkward term) final versions (versions of record). They are available with the date of their publication (or 'pre-publication'). Other publishers publish accepted manuscripts, uncorrected proofs etc. (which I as an author would find pretty annoying). Those preliminary versions are not published in the sense of the Amendment.
>Pagination and volume/issue number are not considered content, but metadata of the work. If they change, they do not change the work. Their change does not violate the requirement of immutability ('fixed content') of the work.
>I pleaded to have this clarified in the the Amendment but this was considered unnecessary for the time being - the beauty of committee work.
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>From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Lyubomir Penev [lyubo.penev at gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:35 AM
>To: Stephen Thorpe
>Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; Zhi-Qiang Zhang; Peter Cranston
>Subject: Re: [Taxacom] e-publication of EarlyView: clarification needed
>OK, but... are the so called "pre-prints" or "early-view" articles valid
>according to the Amendment to the Code?
>I believe, not!
>On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
>> Hi Peter,
>> Then my strong advice would be to assign volume/issue and final pagination
>> before putting articles up EarlyView. That way, nothing need change at all
>> when the print edition happens (and I would advise against quoting the
>> print publication date in the article itself, after the EarlyView version
>> is up - best to just quote it on the editorial pages of the issue). Also,
>> please note that all articles will need to be registered in ZooBank in
>> advance of EarlyView (but not the new names), so that you can quote the
>> LSID on the article itself, along with the online publication date (in the
>> article itself, not just on the associated web page). During registration,
>> you will have to nominate an online archive, but there is no actual
>> requirement to actually archive anything!! Without following this process,
>> nothing will count ...
>> Cheers, Stephen
>> From: Peter Cranston <pscranston at gmail.com>
>> To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
>> Cc: Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>; "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu"
>> <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; Zhi-Qiang Zhang <
>> ZhangZ at landcareresearch.co.nz>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: e-publication of EarlyView: clarification needed
>> The EarlyView article in Systematic Entomology (and all other RES
>> publications) is final and unalterable. Our Wiley advice is that the
>> facility is not preliminary in any sense. Prior to the code emendment we
>> did not make any date-sensitive taxonomic decisions 'available'
>> electronically. Now we propose to do so. Pete
>> On 12 September 2012 16:28, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
>> Hi Rich (CC Peter Cranston, Zhi-Qiang Zhang, and Taxacom),
>> >Please can you clarify something for us? Some journals, like Systematic
>> Entomology, for example, publish EarlyView articles ahead of the print
>> edition (
>> >These articles are not assigned to an issue, nor do they have their final
>> pagination, but are in all other ways, it seems, final versions. The
>> amendment states:
>> >21.8.3. Some works are accessible online in preliminary versions before
>> the publication date of the final version. Such advance electronic access
>> does not advance the date of publication of a work, as preliminary versions
>> are not published (Article 9.9).
>> >It is a little unclear to me if EarlyView articles like those mentioned
>> above, count as final versions before assignment to an issue and final
>> pagination? It seems to me that they should count as final versions,
>> because there doesn't have to be a print edition any more, and a true
>> e-only journal need not be structured in volumes/issues. Ironically, if you
>> do consider the electronic and print editions to be effectively different
>> journals, then the EarlyView articles are final versions, but if you don't,
>> then the version changes when the print version is finally published ...
>> Pete Cranston
>> Emeritus Professor UCD, California
>> Adjunct Professor ANU, Australia
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