[Taxacom] Predatory Open Access Publishers

Robinwbruce at aol.com Robinwbruce at aol.com
Mon Sep 17 15:11:16 CDT 2012


Perhaps the actuality is polygenesis rather monophylogenesis when and where 
 organisms are concerned. When and where ideas are concerned perhaps  we 
should not shatter illusions.
 
Sweet dreams
 
Robin
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/17/2012 7:12:16 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,  
Richard.Zander at mobot.org writes:


Oh,  the subject line is not so far off-topic. 

If "Phylogenetics cannot  estimate monophyly," is right, then what do you
call people to say it does  so, get millions of dollars from cronies at
NSF, march four abreast down  the avenue of honor with rose petals tossed
at their feet by adoring  students, trumpets praising how simple
evolutionary analysis is now that we  have computers and axioms to run
them on, while in the distance totters a  tower of tergiversation labeled
Tree of Life?

Well, can a nested set  of taxa or exemplars alone reveal monophyly? What
about ((((A,B)C)D)E)?  What do you need to know in addition to the
cladogram to infer  monophyly?


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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu]  On Behalf Of Curtis Clark
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Predatory Open Access  Publishers

On 2012-09-16 11:45 AM, Richard Zander wrote:
>  Phylogenetics cannot estimate monophyly. Did I say that? I'll make a
>  macro for it.

I'm amused that no one has changed the subject  line.

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Curtis Clark         http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark
Biological Sciences       +1 909 869 4140
Cal Poly  Pomona, Pomona CA  91768


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