[Taxacom] Lemurs was Bubble Science

John Grehan calabar.john at gmail.com
Sat Apr 27 15:27:17 CDT 2013

The average idea is not the consensus. As to primate origins there is no

If one feels that Yoder is justified to just present her side of the coin
then ok. But that side of the coin misrepresents the state of the science
and the nature of the evidence.

Sure, the ape/human may have been just a rhetorical device (a 'filter').

Whether the timing is 'generally accepted' or not is beside the point which
is the misrepresentation of evidence involved in fossil calibrated
divergence estimates. Just because a particular timing
is generally accepted does not require one to accepted it.

John Grehan

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:46 PM, JF Mate <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com> wrote:

> Again John, the lit review is to the point. The other stuff (apes, humans,
> SA primates) is just filler to pin the lemur picture somewhere. Hence she
> provides the average idea, the consensus, and you know what it is, even if
> you disagree with it. There is nothing really wrong with that because she
> is not discussing the human-ape issue anyway. As for dispersalism, well as
> the generally accepted timing for the origin of lemurs is somewhere in the
> Palaeocene-Eocene and Madagascar split well before, it is little wonder she
> is talking divergence. Sure, there could have been a few islands in the
> middle, but unless you can prove the existance of a solid bridge then they
> got wet and dispersal it (probably) is.
> Best
> Jason
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