[Taxacom] Use of geographic range data as diagnostic characters

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Sun Feb 17 21:08:03 CST 2013


Yeah, Jim might one day be a nice guy!! Darn, I'll have to change my key to Aussi botanists!! :)



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From: Jim Croft <jim.croft at gmail.com>
To: Kim van der Linde <kim at kimvdlinde.com> 
Cc: Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> 
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Use of geographic range data as diagnostic characters

The fact that an attribute might change or vary, does not preclude it
being a character. It just limits what you can do with it.

jim

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Kim van der Linde <kim at kimvdlinde.com> wrote:
> IMHO, there are not, because they can change due to invasion,
> extinction, climate change.
>
> Kim
>
> On 2/17/2013 4:24 PM, Timothy Jones wrote:
>> Political and geographic location, are properties of taxa.  When attempting
>> to identify a taxon; do you look for a book/pub concerning distribution
>> ranges from half-way around the world, or from your locality?
>>
>> Best,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Thomas Pape <TPape at snm.ku.dk> wrote:
>>
>>> The ICodeZN does not deal with geographical range data as these are not
>>> properties of taxa.
>>>
>>> /Thomas Pape - Natural History Museum of Denmark
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>>> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
>>> Sent: 17. februar 2013 19:45
>>> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; Entomology Discussion List
>>> Subject: [Taxacom] Use of geographic range data as diagnostic characters
>>>
>>> Zoologists,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a publication that addresses the issue of using
>>> geographic range data in a species diagnosis? And /or in an
>>> identification key?
>>>
>>>
>>> Does the ICZN forbid or recommend against this?
>>>
>>>
>>> I expect someone has discussed the issue of range data being somewhat
>>> like phenotype (inherited from one's parents - both a habitat preference
>>> and a geographic location).
>>>
>>> We all know species turn out well outside their known ranges all the
>>> time so it's not a very reliable data source but I'm looking for a good
>>> published treatment of the issues...
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Derek Sikes
>>>
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