[Taxacom] Kickstarter for Taxonomy

Lyubomir Penev lyubo.penev at gmail.com
Tue Feb 26 03:47:10 CST 2013


Good job, Donat!

It is a shame that such important orgainsation as ISZN, moreover being at
the verge of revolutionary change of the way taxonomy is being done, is in
trouble with such a low yearly budget!

Pensoft donated EURO 1000.

Best,
Lyubomir


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org> wrote:

> Dear Jim
>
> At the recent Pro-iBiosphere meeting in Leiden it became clear in the
> discussion that we need rethink the underlying business models of our
> institutions. The very simple suggested way out of the open access model in
> publishing, suggested by a participant publishing floras, was that we pay
> for each of the pdf we get, similar to the downloads in the music world.
> But this wrecks open access and eventually kills the entire concept of
> building an open knowledge system for taxonomy, and eventually sciences and
> beyond.
>
> So we need open access, and we have to find ways we can sustain the
> institutions delivering the content we need.
>
> When I watch my budgets, both my own and those of my two children, then I
> observer the normality off additional spending over the last years for
> gadgets. It is just normal to have the most modern gadget, the newest
> I-phone, camera, earphones and all with a normality that goes beyond
> rationality in most cases (unless there is a real improvement), and it is
> just normal that we pay considerable amounts of money. We also pay a lot of
> money for services, such as phone bills, internet access, music.
>
> But in our world, we think differently. We just are used that the services
> around us are free. More than 100,000 per year would download the
> publications on antbase; similarly we expect Zoobank to deliver and are
> frustrated because it does not. The good thing is, that we realize how
> meager the content is. And why, because we have free access.
>
> We need a different business model, similar to science funding. NSF is not
> selling your products, your research results you produce and throw on an
> open market. No, it pays you, to create the results that will help others
> to  do things with it that might end up in a better crop protection.  It
> goes through a peer review process to make sure they can trust you to
> deliver something of value.
>
> Similarly, we need to pay the institutions we need and we trust upfront so
> that they deliver the content we need. The Natural History Museum in London
> is probably one of the biggest supporter of this ide by providing space for
> the ICZN, provide them access to one of the world's foremost  natural
> history library, provide them IT support. The US NSF decided to fund  GNA
> and Zoobank. But we want more, we want to have a vibrant Zoobank that is
> the reliable source we want, we can link to and can make an integral part
> of any modern publication.
>
> It seems to me that if each of us pays some money to ICZN then we only do
> the logic step: Instead of paying for downloading for a new piece of music
> we just pay once a year a fee that we can download as much content as
> possible
>
> In the meantime, we can and have to talk to our administration that they
> support ICZN, that they help to share the burden to maintain it. It is very
> clear that our governments discover the value of digital content, why else
> would have Obama's office decided on February 22 that all publicly funded
> data (and publications) have to become open access? Here it is explicit:
>
> "In addition to addressing the issue of public access to scientific
> publications, the memorandum requires that agencies start to address the
> need to improve upon the management and sharing of scientific data produced
> with Federal funding. Strengthening these policies will promote
> entrepreneurship and jobs growth in addition to driving scientific
> progress. Access to pre-existing data sets can accelerate growth by
> allowing companies to focus resources and efforts on understanding and
> fully exploiting discoveries instead of repeating basic, pre-competitive
> work already documented elsewhere." Jon Holdren, Director of OSTP
>
> I think, we all have to contribute and can no longer complain about others
> doing a dismal job. The way we do our science changes, so the way we do our
> business has to change as well to accommodate our cool new world
>
> Donat
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Croft
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:16 AM
> To: Michael A. Ivie
> Cc: Taxacom
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Kickstarter for Taxonomy
>
> That you have to beg and bully individual charity for what is effectively
> small change in an institutional context suggests that the system is
> structurally flawed, not sustainable and in need of a radical rethink.
>
> jim
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu>
> wrote:
> > I am pledging $50 personally,and I challenge each one of you
> > zoologists to do the same.
> >
> > Michael Ivie
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/22/2013 10:38 PM, Donat Agosti wrote:
> >> BTW
> >>
> >> Here is the place to pledge your donation: http://iczn.org/
> >>
> >> Donat
>
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