[Taxacom] Kickstarter for Taxonomy

Paul van Rijckevorsel dipteryx at freeler.nl
Wed Feb 27 02:48:07 CST 2013

Yes, having a de-centralized structure no doubt means that
there is a de-centralized financing issue, and indeed it will
be a key question how many institutes support their staf in
spending part of their paid time to help with nomenclatural
problems. And retired (and other volunteering) experts do
come with their own set of advantages and disadvantages.
No doubt it will prove that there are plenty of problems, if
one goes and looks for them.

But for the moment it is only mycology which has introduced
some form of registration (and this does not appear to cause
real funding problems). Registration for botany (and phycology)
is not really being considered (as far as I can tell).


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donat Agosti" <agosti at amnh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:42 AM

Hi Paul

Most of the dedicated botanists (eg Sandy Knap who was co-running the show 
very skilful in Melbourne for one week) are all paid through their 
institutions by allowing them to work on the issues, or are retired. At the 
same time IPNI is not run by volunteers but supported by an institution (eg 
RBGK). Running this sort of conglomerates is very difficult, especially if a 
service is demanded.
However, there is a radical change taking place with the registration of 
names - this needs a professional support and cannot be dealt with on an 
adhoc basis. The registry are our reference system,  not least to avoid a 
lot of revisionary work for the future by having a complete service that 
eventually has names that are linked to type material (which hopefully JSTOR 
will release) and protologues that one day in the near future will all be 
open access as well (see the new ruling requesting open access to all public 
funded research results in the US (http://tinyurl.com/an5o4k5)  and its 
implementation at US NSF (http://tinyurl.com/a5jap6g)

A little bit more explanations are to be found here 


-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu 
[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul van 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:50 PM
To: Taxacom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Kickstarter for Taxonomy

I am probably not the one to ask, but in general botany is organized a 
little differently. As you know, the handling of nomenclature proposals is 
done by Committees, which consist of dedicated botanists across the world, 
so there is no need for a secretariat to do this.

The IAPT is moderately robust and financially supports the work of the 
Editorial Committee that puts together the Code, and contributes to the 
travelling expenses of key persons to an IBC (check any preface of any 
edition of the Code and the Congress report, in Taxon 60: 1520.
2011). Also the IAPT funds the Proceedings of the Nomenclature Section, so 
that each participant gets a free copy (although for neither the Vienna nor 
the Melbourne Congress this has materialized, as yet) The IAPT, like any 
society, produces yearly financial reports, and I am sure we saw figures at 
Melbourne. But there is not a super-abundance of money.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Croft" <jim.croft at gmail.com>
To: "Paul van Rijckevorsel" <dipteryx at freeler.nl>
Cc: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Kickstarter for Taxonomy

>I agree fully Paul. It looks like an essential stopgap is needed, and
> this might be one way to do it.
> I have to confess to not really being across the details of the
> funding/governance model in Botany to know if there are any useful
> lessons to be learned. Would you be able to share an explanation? Or
> are we in a similarly fragile situation?
> jim
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Paul van Rijckevorsel
> <dipteryx at freeler.nl> wrote:
>> True enough, but to start "a radical rethink" of a "structurally
>> flawed" system it surely helps to get people moving and
>> starting to think about it. A move "to beg and bully individual
>> charity for what is effectively small change" may just be the
>> suitable initial step on the way to bigger things?
>> Paul
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