[Taxacom] New Paper on Mollusca

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Tue Jan 22 18:01:13 CST 2013


This is exactly why verbal descriptions are crucial, as numerical identifiers are prone to error ...
 
Stephen


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From: Geoff Read <gread at actrix.gen.nz>
To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New Paper on Mollusca


Can only agree on the importance of maps, and of lat longs for type
localities together with placenames, particularly if Asian names which
westerners may misunderstand, or have no easy handle on.  And that authors
check crucial lat longs before publishing. So simple to do online at
Geolocater, but I've recently seen an example where a marine type locality
was apparently deep inland in the USA (decimal lat/long but both were
badly wrong) instead of offshore in the Monterey Canyon as it was supposed
to be.  Other trad lat longs have been completely incomprehensible
(minutes greater than 60, etc).

Geoff

On Wed, January 23, 2013 1:37 am, John Grehan wrote:
> Ken,
>
> In my view a paper does not have to be a monograph to warrant maps. There
> can be great biogeographic information even in a paper of this kind.
> Perhaps its 'an axe to grind' but still, I think its a good axe - that
> many
> taxonomic and systematic papers would be greatly enhanced by including
> maps. As for 'venting' my frustration, why not? You feel at home venting
> your frustration over cladistics all the time. And here I was just saying
> that the addition of a map would be an improvement - and not just for the
> genus overall, but the new species also. And yes, a map for every new
> species would be desirable in my opinion. I have just come across a new
> species description that recorded its two known localities in Taiwan as
> Mts. Shūehshan, Mt. Anmashan. I am, not surprisingly, not familiar with
> either locality. I did a Google Earth search and came up with names that
> were not identical so I am not sure and so I will have to follow up with
> an
> atlas or more detailed web search - which I will do, but the point is that
> a map would have made the information immediately accessible.
>
> Heads has pointed out (to me or on the list, I do not remember) that many
> molecular papers have given attention to providing maps - perhaps more so
> than many morphological studies. With a map one is able, at a glance, to
> perceive information that otherwise would take some time to compile unless
> one was already familiar with the coordinates of the localities. I have
> often seen efforts by authors to make taxonomic papers of broader interest
> or relevance by adding in some speculations (usually empirically baseless)
> about biogeography. Maps would also meet that goal and provide more data
> at
> the same time.
>
> John
>



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