[Taxacom] The Plant List: Errors and Omissions-1

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Sun Jan 27 16:04:43 CST 2013


My view on The Plant List is that it is a very useful starting point for Wikispecies, to get most names placed somewhere sensible (probably most of them correct), and then we can build on it from there, correcting errors, and adding new names faster than The Plant List can ...
 
Stephen


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From: Jim L. Reveal <jlr326 at cornell.edu>
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Be that as it may, Jim, the problem is that there are far too few taxonomist who are willing, or even able, to deal with basic, alpha-level taxonomy and nomenclature. Academic taxonomics, and I assume most in museum settings today, cannot afford (either for promotion and/or tenue) to get bogged down in the basics as there simply is not an available funding source to do this kind of work. If my divulgation paper has done nothing more that mere hint at the hidden bottom of the iceberg, I do not see much in the way of funding to actually attack the problem with the resources (especially knowledgable people) needed to actually "sort out the 'worms'. 

Jim Reveal

Re: http://www.phytoneuron.net/PhytoN-Divulgation.pdf
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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:41 PM
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But that's what the job is - to sort out the 'worms'. Every last one.
That what god invented taxonomists for.

jim

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Paul Kirk <P.Kirk at kew.org> wrote:
> Adding basionym links often opens a can of worms that some would like to keep closed ... especially compilors :-)
>
> Paul
>
> ________________________________________
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Dr Gurcharan Singh [singhg at sify.com]
> Sent: 27 January 2013 11:32
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] The Plant List: Errors and Omissions-1
>
> Dear members
> The publication online The Plant List, was a big relief for many of us, who
> relied a lot on GRIN (which mostly covers American Plants), online Floras,
> recent Floras and other publications in quest for accepted names.
> Unfortunately, however, as  I consult more and more names from this list, I
> find it confuses you more than it helps you. The eye sores are unresolved
> names, numerous accepted names as combination without even basionym as its
> synonym, wrong citation of autonyms, many missing autonyms and numerous
> missing binomials (although listed in IPNI) in a database which claims to
> include all published names of plants.
>      In last few months I have sent several communications to the managers
> of the List and propose to reproduce the contents here with the hope that
> if any of the members here are associated with The Plant List, they can
> ensure that revised version of The Plant List does not contain at least the
> basic errors.
>        Looking at several errors in the List, it appears that the List was
> compiled by persons, who know little about botany or nomenclature rules.
>        Here is the First communication sent more than an year ago.
>
>
> 1. *Spilanthes* *acmella* (L.)
> L.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/gcc-49337>
>  is cited as accepted name without any synonym, where as all combination
> names should have basionym as synonym*. *Also no citation is given, whereas
> in GRIN citation Syst. veg. ed. 13:610. 1774 is given.  In your entry
> Blainvillea acmella (L.) Philipson as accepted name Spilanthes acmella (L.)
> Murray is cited as synonym with same citation as for your Spilanthes
> acmella (L.) L. The basionym for all these is Verbesina acmella L. All this
> proves that your entry of Spilanthes acmella (L.) L. as accepted name is to
> be deleted and under Blainvillea acmella the synonym should be Spilanthes
> acmella (L.) L. and not S. acmella (L.) Murray. As rightly pointed out by
> GRIN,
> http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?35254
>
>    - Linnaeus is author of the new names in Syst. veg. ed. 13
>    - Murray was simply editor, fide TL-2 3:110, 670. 1980
>
> 2. *Kosteletzkya* *vitifolia* (L.) M.R.Almeida &
> N.Patil<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2334897> is
> treated as unresolved name, whereas going through the combination in
> original publication it is clear that they are suggesting new name for
> Hibiscus vitifolius L. They have not properly cited the basionym as pointed
> in IPNI. But it makes no relevance because their judgement was misplaced.
> They offered combination on the basis of winged capsule, overlooking the
> multiseeded chambers of  capsule, Kosteletzkya being characterised by
> single-seeded chambers of capsule. As such Kosteletzkya may simply treated
> as synonym of Hibiscus vitifolius, if necessary with a note that it is an
> illegitimate combination. The unresolved names are headache for reader and
> not good for the reputation of The Plant List
>
> 3. There are numerous names totally missing from the list. There may be
> many many more but here are a few
>
>    -  *Argyreia elliptica* Arn. ex Choisy, Convolv. Orient. 35, 1834
>    -  *Ipomoea elliptica* Roth -- Nov. Pl. Sp. 113. 1821
>    -  *Lettsomia elliptica *Wight -- Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient. [Wight] t.
>    1356, in nota.
>    - *Ipomoea laurifolia *Sweet -- Hort. Brit. [Sweet] 288. 1826
>    -  *Argyreia** **laurifolia** *Voigt -- Hort. Suburb. Calcutt. 351. 1845
>    -  *Convolvulus ellipticus* Spreng. -- Syst. Veg. (ed. 16) [Sprengel] 1:
>    613. 1824 [dated 1825; publ. in late 1824]
>    -  *Convolvulus laurifolius* Roxb. -- Hort. Bengal. [13]; Fl. Ind. i.
>    470.
>    -  *Argyreia involucrata* C.B.Clarke -- Fl. Brit. India [J. D. Hooker]
>    iv. 187.
>    -  *Argyreia pilosa* Wight & Arn. -- Nova Acta Phys.-Med. Acad. Caes.
>    Leop.-Carol. Nat. Cur. 18(1): 356c. 1836
>    -  *Argyreia sericea* St.-Lag. -- Ann. Soc. Bot. Lyon vii. (1880) 120.
>    -  *Argyreia sericea* Dalzell -- Bombay Fl. 169. 1861
>    -  *Argyreia strigosa* (Roth) Roberty -- Candollea xiv. 44 (1952).
>    -  *Argyreia strigosa *(Roth) Roberty subsp. *minor* (C.B.Clarke)
>    Panigrahi & Murti -- Fl. Bilaspur District 1: 383 (1989)
>    -  *Argyreia strigosa *(Roth) Roberty subsp. *obovata* (C.B.Clarke)
>    Panigrahi & Murti -- Fl. Bilaspur District 1: 383 (1989)
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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> University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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