[Taxacom] Journal of Hymenoptera Research

Johnson, Paul Paul.Johnson at sdstate.edu
Thu Jan 31 18:07:23 CST 2013


Two points:
Open access is not necessarily a affordable.  This week alone I received a generous offer from Springer for a mere US$3000 fee to have a six page article published as open access.  Another article in Zootaxa will be charged US$20/page for open access.  Fiscally, the choice is self-evident for a few pages, leaving only massive vanity to justify the questionable value of a higher impact factor.  Open access costs, so its use needs to be balanced with other revenue flow of the Society.

The costs of specialized society journals also varies by financial model.  This past November the members of The Coleopterist's Society, publishing the best and highest [impact] value beetle focused journal, were told that the accumulation of revenue from JSTOR and BioOne access fees, and Society investments, are allowing the reduction of page charges to barely existent.  This is an example of a specialized society developing a practical financial model (over a long period) with its primary function in mind.  It is all a matter of what the Society wants and having dedicated officers.  The Coleopterists Bulletin is open access to members.  Whether full public open access of the Bulletin is in the future depends on what the membership wants and whether it will be affordable.  At this time I would argue against it; tomorrow might be different.



Paul J. Johnson, PhD
Professor of Entomology
Faculty Senate Exec Comm & Graduate Council

Insect Biodiversity Lab
South Dakota State University
Brookings, SD 57007, USA

On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:17 PM, "Dean Pentcheff" <pentcheff at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Doug Yanega <dyanega at ucr.edu> wrote:
> 
>> ...
> why would
>> the Society collapse if the journal suddenly cost vastly less to
>> produce (e.g., if they went to online publishing with no print
>> version)?
> ...
> 
> That's a key question here. Does it cost (the society) less to publish in
> an online open access journal than in the classical commercial publishing
> model? I don't know (and neither does Donat :). Scientists like me who are
> not intimately involved in the publishing process tend to think that
> publishing an online Open Source journal should be very cheap. The
> experience of some recent large-scale Open Source journals argues otherwise
> — there's been a surprisingly big sticker shock at the final costs of
> publishing. We need better information, particularly for small-scale
> operations (e.g. not PLoS ONE).
> 
> 
>> ...
> 
> any publication of any society that is NOT being made
>> available electronically is doing LESS to promote the exposure and
>> impact of an author's research than would otherwise be the case, and
>> the argument could therefore be made that publishing in
>> limited-distribution specialist journals is *bad* for one's
>> professional development, regardless of how well-targeted the
>> audience may be.
> 
> ...
> Score! Tilt! Jackpot! YesYesYes. I cannot agree more thoroughly. It has
> always seemed utterly paradoxical to me that a society dedicated to
> promulgating the study of a subject would deliberately choose to keep its
> scientific efforts as inaccessible as possible by keeping them behind
> paywalls. The paradox is semi-resolved if we assume that, in many cases,
> the people making the society decisions aren't really aware of the modern
> full spectrum of publishing options.
> 
> 
>> ...
> 
> in times like these,
>> would it not be helpful if professional societies DID use their funds
>> to actively support taxonomists, rather than simply giving them a
>> comfortable place to publish?
> 
> 
> Absolutely. Science is people working, not published results.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Doug Yanega        Dept. of Entomology         Entomology Research Museum
> -Dean
> -- 
> Dean Pentcheff
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> dpentche at nhm.org
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