[Taxacom] BioNames

Richard Pyle deepreef at bishopmuseum.org
Mon Jun 3 16:06:36 CDT 2013


Ditto.

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> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-
> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Kirk
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:03 AM
> To: Stephen Thorpe
> Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] BioNames
> 
> I am inclined to agree with Stephen on this one :-)
> 
> Paul
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-
> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Thorpe
> [stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz]
> Sent: 03 June 2013 21:57
> To: Tony.Rees at csiro.au; neale at bishopmuseum.org
> Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] BioNames
> 
> The answer is simple: less automated and more human involvement in the
> aggregation process, combined with an efficient and transparent system for
> feedback regarding errors, by anyone who notices them (preferably with the
> history all logged and publicly archived) ...
> 
> 
> From: "Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
> To: neale at bishopmuseum.org; stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
> Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2013 8:45 AM
> Subject: RE: [Taxacom] BioNames
> 
> 
> OK... so returning to the "Cepa" thread as identified by Chris Thompson
...
> 
> Looking at http://bionames.org/search/Cepa,the problem arises on account
> of Cepa being a genus-level homonym (twice in both animals and plants),
> which can be discovered via various sources as previously noted, however
> this is not reflected in the GBIF backbone taxonomy (http://ecat-
> dev.gbif.org/search?q=Cepa&rkey=1) to which Rod has pinned a lot of his
> classification information. So some questions might arise as follows:
> 
> - why does the GBIF taxonomy mangle this group of names (what is specific
> to this case)
> - is this likely to be a rare or common event (is it a more general class
of error)
> - what could assist GBIF to (a) detect this and equivalent problems, and
(b)
> fix them
> - what could assist Rod or other external user of GBIF data to do the same
> (i.e. warning signs)
> - does BioNames choose wisely in using the GBIF taxonomy, bearing in mind
> the latter's disclaimers i.e.:
> 
> "Nub Disclaimer: The GBIF Backbone Taxonomy (Nub) is an automatically
> synthesised management classification with limited manual curating.
> Information presented here does not represent a consistent taxon but may
> conflict with other nub "usages" in many cases to a trained taxonomists
eye.
> The information presented on this page was aggregated from the data found
> in the sources below."
> 
> I do have some thoughts about these but no more time just now (shades of
> Fermat's last theorem) however if others would like to chip in, please do.
> 
> Regards - Tony
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-
> > bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Evenhuis
> > Sent: Sunday, 2 June 2013 8:34 PM
> > To: Stephen Thorpe
> > Cc: TAXACOM
> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] BioNames
> >
> >  Stephen  --
> >
> > Cepa Humphries 1797 is a nomen nudum -- according to Sherborn -- who
> > DOES list it in his Index Animalium (damn, he was good ... ). Its
> > being an unavailable name is probably why it is not in Neave or WorMS
....
> >
> >
> > -Neal
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