[Taxacom] Data query, ETC.

Robin Leech releech at telus.net
Sun Jun 23 17:26:52 CDT 2013


Thanks, Chris,
You have a way with words and the truth.
Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson
Sent: June-23-13 11:25 AM
To: Frank.Krell at dmns.org; dpwijesinghe at yahoo.com; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Data query, ETC.

Frank,

AND what is more frustrating is the HUGE amount of money that has been
expended on these mega-projects to simply repeat, re-harvest, etc., the same
old basic taxonomic information, just generating new software.

And virtually nothing is left over for fundamental, basic research into the
discovery and documentation of our ever disappearing biodiversity.

So, in a few years you dynastine beetle will be gone, but we will continue
to waste money on re-cycling the same old information about them in newer
forms, formats, etc.

And yes, this is not restricted to Systematics. But this is simply the
formula for why Apple, Microsoft, et alia, are trillion / billion dollar
corporations. Generate new formats / access protocols / etc., to the same
data, but generate lots of $$$. And yes, since from the original UNIVAC to
today's iPod, etc., bringing computer power the general public is WONDERFUL,
but how much NEW information is really available to the public. [Yes, thanks
to Snowden, lots!! Smile!]

Cheers,

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank.Krell at dmns.org
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:43 AM
To: dpwijesinghe at yahoo.com ; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Data query


"I for one fail to see the point of 'mega-projects' using copied, re-copied 
and 'machine-read' data."

particularly since they still make data retrieval pretty frustrating. I just

googled the rhinoceros beetle Temnorhynchus sjoestedti. Apart from some of 
my own papers, the search revealed 15 pages repeating zero information. 
Well, I know now that it belongs to Protostomia and Insecta, and that it is 
a dynastine. This kind of outcome is the same for most species in the world,

and has remained largely unchanged for years, apart from the fact that the 
number of pages revealing this information has increased. Reality can be 
frustrating.

Frank

Dr. Frank-T. Krell
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Commissioner, International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature
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