[Taxacom] Data query

John Grehan calabar.john at gmail.com
Tue Jun 25 05:57:27 CDT 2013


I have pondered the problem of lost links for my webpage and in particular
for images of taxa. Having that in mind, I have reproduced (with
permission) the image itself as well as providing the link. Of course that
is simple enough for an image, but not for larger data items.

John Grehan


On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dr Brian Taylor <
dr.brian.taylor at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> A little point but critical to the ongoing discussion.  On each taxonomic
> page of my website "Ants of Africa", I painstakingly gave a link to the
> Hymenoptera Name Server.
>
> The link for several years has been on
> http://atbi.biosci.ohio-state.edu:210/hymenoptera/
>
> Suddenly the location (server, I assume) has changed to
>
> http://osuc.biosci.ohio-state.edu/hymenoptera/
>
> So all my 2000 or so pages have a non-operational link.
>
> So, I might argue, what was the point of my spending time giving links?
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
> On 25/06/2013 07:55, "Richard Pyle" <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org> wrote:
>
> > I slogged through this discussion, and found many things I agreed with,
> and
> > many things I disagreed with, from all of the major contributors to the
> > thread.  However, I did want to call attention to one point raised by
> > several different people, that I STRONGLY agree with, and that I would
> like
> > to see amplified repeatedly  and very loudly:
> >
> > Tony Rees said it this way:
> >
> >> What we really need to aspire to is a network of linked systems
> >> whereby changes and new content entered once can propagate
> >> automatically elsewhere as needed rather than requiring manual input
> >
> > And again this way:
> >
> >> Perhaps it is time to move the discussion on to related matters
> >> such as how to possibly chain these systems together in the future
> >> so that updates may more readily flow from the point of entry to
> >> potentially multiple points of re-use...
> >
> > And then Stephen followed with this gem:
> >
> >> Well, one thing that stands out here is that the only honourable
> >> thing to do, but is rarely done, is to provide links from a taxon
> >> page in one project to the corresponding taxon pages in other
> >> projects which may have better and more complete data on
> >> that taxon, so as to give the user a chance of finding what
> >> they want to know even if the project they have visited
> >> doesn't have the data. Conversely, doing so will also highlight
> >> how good the visited project is, if the linked projects have
> >> less data, so it is win-win, really!
> >
> > YES!  YES! YES!!
> >
> > About two years ago, it became very clear to me that a small feature I
> added
> > to my Taxonomer database back in the 1990's, and included in the first
> > version of ZooBank back in 2008 (cross-linking identifiers) will almost
> > certainly come to be known as one of the most important (if not *the*
> most
> > important) contributions from GNUB/ZooBank to our community; which is a
> > generic mechanism for cross-linking records to each other.
> >
> > It's an incredibly simple data structure, and is now built in to the
> ZooBank
> > website for Authors, References and Taxon Names (but it can easily be
> > applied to any record in any table of the database).  When you're logged
> in
> > to ZooBank and have access to a particular record for editing, you'll
> see a
> > small link next to the "Edit" button for "add external identifier".
> Click on
> > this and you get a pop-up form that lets you create cross-links to other
> > external databases.  Just for fun, I went to my old trusty example:
> > http://zoobank.org/8BDC0735-FEA4-4298-83FA-D04F67C3FBEC
> >
> > and added a link to the Wikispecies page (Identifier Doimain =
> "WikiSpecies
> > Page"; Identifier = "Chromis_abyssus"), and voilĂ !  A link from the
> ZooBank
> > record to the WikiSpecies page is born!
> >
> > Now... a few caveats...  there is a buglet that prevents the closing of
> the
> > pop-up form after you create such a link (just refresh the page to make
> it
> > go away).  Also, it's only visible if you have edit access to a
> particular
> > record in ZooBank.  Once we fix the buglet and beef up the protection
> code
> > (to minimize bogus entries), we'll make this feature available to anyone
> > with a login account for applying to any record (whether or not the user
> has
> > edit access to the record).
> >
> > Our plan is to develop a generic service around this cross-linking
> mechanism
> > such that anyone can harvest the cross-links for any record, and display
> > them on their local page.  The REALLY cool part is this:  Once I link the
> > ZooBank record to the Wikispecies page, the WoRMS page, the FishBase
> page,
> > and so on....I've not only linked ZooBank to these other sources, we've
> also
> > linked these other sources TO EACH OTHER. In the example I gave above
> > (Chromis abyssus), I didn't just link ZooBank to WikiSpecies; I also
> linked
> > WikiSpecies to BOLD, Bill Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes, Digimorph, EoL,
> > FishBase, MorphBank, NCBI/GenBank, and WoRMS.  And, I've linked each of
> > these databases to WikiSpecies (as well as each other).  The idea for the
> > generic service would be for WoRMS to fire off its identifier (in this
> case,
> > 345844) to the service and get back the links to all the other databases.
> >
> > As Stephen says, the honorable data managers will see this as a
> no-brainer
> > win-win.
> >
> > I'll post more on this service once we get it functional.
> >
> > Aloha,
> > Rich
> >
> >
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