[Taxacom] Wulf Schleip – Plagiarisation - an example everyone here can ch...
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Robinwbruce at aol.com
Wed May 29 09:29:48 CDT 2013
I do not know of a ban-hammer, but can we not ALL just invoke 'the golden
In a message dated 5/29/2013 3:12:41 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
timastrop at gmail.com writes:
I wholeheartedly agree with Angelo* ' **This is absolutely unprofessional
and annoying'*. Do we not have a ban-hammer?
*Tim Astrop, PhD Candidate*
Program in Integrative Bioscience, The University of Akron
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Angelo Bolzern <
angelo.bolzern at arachnodet.com> wrote:
> As a postoc working on taxonomy, I can not understand how anyone can
> waist so much time in blaming others and searching the internet for
> "bad posts" when there is so much to do in our core field of work! So,
> please follow the suggestions from others and stop posting this things
> on that list. This is absolutely unprofessional and annoying.
> Zitat von Raymond Hoser Snakeman Snakebusters Reptile Parties
> <viper007 at live.com.au>:
> > Wulf Schleip
> > – Plagiarisation.
> > Dear
> > all,
> > if you
> > want to have an idea of the kind of caper’s our good friend Wulf
> > up to, I suggest you all go to Wikipedia in a hurry and look at some of
> > older “Leiopython” pages to see some of the rubbish he has put in his
> > versions, before he does what Wolfgang Wuster recently did and had
> > some old Wikipedia
> > edits deleted!
> > Try for
> > example his edit of 10 November 2007.
> > There
> > he wrote:
> > “Leiopython is a monotypic genus
> > created for the nonvenomous
> > python species, L. albertisii,
> > found in New Guinea.
> > No
> > subspecies are currently recognized.”
> > Well
> > that is the first lie as he knew of the Hoser 2000 paper recognising
> > subspecies!
> > Under
> > the heading “Taxonomy” at the far bottom of the page he wrote:
> > “new species L. hoserae, and two new subspecies L. albertisii
> > barkeri and L. a. bennetti, are described in Hoser (2000). 
> > However, these descriptions are
> > considered vague and questionable.”
> > These linked numbers were to peals of wisdom in the form
> > of two rants from his good mate and co-author of smear, Wolfgang
> > Then fast foreward to 13 December 2008 where Schleip
> > vandalises the page again to write:
> > “A new species L.
> > hoserae, and two new subspecies L.
> > albertisii barkeri and L. a. bennetti,
> > were described in Hoser
> > (2000),  but these
> > descriptions are considered vague and
> > questionable. In 2008, Schleip
> > redescribed two of
> > Hoser's (2000) taxa, providing proper
> > desciptions and diagnoses for the taxa found valid. A third,
> > Leiopython albertisii
> > barkeri was
> > considered a nomen nudum due to Hoser not having provided a
> > description that includes characters
> > to differentiate this taxon from others. Furthermore,
> > Leiopython albertisii
> > was
> > put back to specific rank, and additionally, three new species were
> > introduced.”
> > Yes the
> > linked “papers” were more smear from himself and Wuster and you may
> > say it may
> > not be plagiarisation in it’s purest form, but it is certainly
> > behaviour none the less.
> > In
> > terms of Wulf Schleip, the amateur snake keeper from Germany, he did
> > spending 7 years knowingly denying a valid species that was properly
> > described
> > by another person (that he had a hatred of), he then publishes a paper
> > December 2008) and then goes global on the web wherever he can get his
> > hands and tries to steal the credit for doing an allegedly “proper
> > description”
> > and then seeks to manufacture the alleged fact he did a “proper
> > description” by
> > repeatedly posting on sites like Wikipedia to peddle the lie.
> > PS – If
> > Schleip deletes the Wikipedia entries, I have saved copies!
> > All the
> > best
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