[Taxacom] Killing of zoo giraffe to avoid inbreeding

John Grehan calabar.john at gmail.com
Thu Feb 13 06:00:58 CST 2014

Yesterday an Indian meal moth flew out into the classroom of 7-8th graders
and caused a predictably dramatic reaction among some so I promptly grabbed
the moth out of the air and gave it a quick squeeze and into the trash bin.
The moth was unneeded. I did not even get time to name it. It might be said
that we are all responsible for the situation facing all plants and animals
on the planet at this time. In an interview with the author of another book
on the extinction topic (6th extinction) it was noted that a scientist said
that very likely that eventually there will be no more large animals left
alive in the wild at all.

John Grehan

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Ken Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Curtis,
>            I think the phrase "deaths of unneeded offspring" would pretty
> well sum up why some have called Copenhagen Zoo's actions "arrogant".   And
> I'm just talking about the decision to cull Marius, not the even more
> insensitive public dismemberment that followed.  And the claim that
> contraceptives are problematic seems to now be somewhat outdated.
>                                                     In any case, although
> Marius was apparently unneeded for their particular program, that does not
> justify their excuses for not finding a suitable zoo or wildlife park very
> willing to take him.  And just where is their replacement for Marius going
> to come from?  Perhaps a male that might serve better in an "in situ"
> conservation program?  I would be hesistant to send a giraffe to Copenhagen
> Zoo from Africa unless it was imminently in danger of death in Africa.  And
> even then, I would tend to look at zoos elsewhere less likely to cull a
> healthy giraffe just for being too ordinary genetically in their view.
>                                ----------------Ken
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:59:54 -0800
> > From: lists at curtisclark.org
> > To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Killing of zoo giraffe to avoid inbreeding
> >
> > On 2014-02-10 4:45 PM, John Grehan wrote:
> > > Only thing I am still puzzled about is how did the zoo allows this
> > > particular giraffe to be produced by 'inbreeding' in the first place.
> >
> > That was my question as well, but I read that Danish zoos allow animals
> > to breed (rather than using contraceptives) for their physical and
> > psychological well-being. In effect (according to the article), they are
> > trading the deaths of unneeded offspring for better lives for all the
> > animals in their care.
> >
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> >
> >
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