[Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs, best to disregard it now

Mike Sadka mike.sadka at nhm.ac.uk
Thu Apr 30 04:50:39 CDT 2015


Hi Stephen

Is this the same wikispecies you used to tell us all was the future of biodiversity IT ?

And by the way - you accuse others of ad hominem attacks, but your comments have been the most barbed in this thread.

Cheerio, Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Thorpe
Sent: 30 April 2015 00:20
To: JF Mate; Scott Thomson
Cc: Taxacom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs, best to disregard it now

I was waiting for your response, Scott, since you are one of the major players in the dispute, i.e. your hands are dirty! You can turn it into an ad hominem argument against me if you wish, but it doesn't change the facts of what I said, namely that Wikispecies is no longer a reliable site, and should be diregarded. Now you can go back to your Wikispecies agenda of trying to rewrite the history of reptile taxonomy.

Stephen

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On Thu, 30/4/15, Scott Thomson <scott.thomson321 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs,	best to disregard it now
 To: "JF Mate" <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
 Cc: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Thursday, 30 April, 2015, 11:14 AM
 
 I did not relise this had
 been crossposted to Taxacom as well as ICZN  List.. My response over there was:
 
 --------------------------------
 Stephen that is low, Wikimedia cannot defend  themselves here and you have  cherry picked  one item that agrees with your statement. I am not going  to  argue with you here, since it is not the  ICZN lists business, however if  you are  going to say you have been blocked maybe you should say why  you  have been permanently banned from the  English Wikipedia and Wikispecies and  are on  blocks for Meta-Wiki and Wiki Commons. Thats 4 sites, in my
 8 years
 as an editor in Wikimedia although I
 am sure there are others, and worse, I
 personally have not seen anyone else get a ban  like that so quickly. Your  hatred of  wikimedia is very evident in what you have said in recent  times,  it extends clearly from the treatment  you received. Hence anything you say  anywhere on Wikispecies or any other Wikimedia  Project needs to be taken  with a grain of  salt and is clearly dipped in acid. I have told you  before  you need to let this go for a while,  let it calm down. I even said I would  propose the removal of the bans, but you have  to stop and let it go and fix  the damage  first.
 
 Now please, let it
 go this is not the forum for it.
 -------------------------------------
 
 In response to Jason, it is a
 playground fight. I was not involved in it,  made sure I stayed out of it, but I have had to  watch it. Not pretty.
 
 Cheers, Scott
 
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:19 PM, JF Mate <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 > Maybe you
 should copy and paste the actual example/s as succintly  as  > possible. Otherwise it just looks  like a playground fight.
 >
 > Jason
 > On 30/04/2015
 8:03 AM, "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>  > wrote:
 >
 > > There has been a "military
 takeover" of Wikispecies, by people who know  > > not what they are doing (see, for  example, this article  > > http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Austrophthiracarus_longisetosus
 in
 > > which homonymy has been
 confused with synonymy!) I have been excluded and  > > blocked from editing the site in  future. The following comment, posted by  > > another editor who is alarmed by what  is happening (please excuse his  > >
 English) is illustrative of the current situation, so I copy  it below  > from  > >  the Wikispecies Village Pump:
 > >
 > > Reducing time for working at
 Wikispecies
 > >
 >
 > At Wikispecies about 2 million taxon pages are missing.
 Instead of really
 > > contributing to
 Wikispecies, that is adding new pages, there is a playing  > > around with an AWB and modifying or  deleting things that do no harm, like  >  > the double square brackets of taxon names on hundreds  of thousand pages.
 > > And proudly is
 told of "contributions". That are no
 contributions. There
 > is
 > > nothing professional in it.
 Wikispecies is the only Wiki that expects to  > > have users from the scientific  community. Observing what is done at  >  > present, will not attract such users. It will lead to a  number of closed  > > Wikis for groups  of organisms, as first ones are already existing, so  > that  > > such  unprofessional actions are not possible.
 > > I'll considerably reduce my
 working time here under the present
 >
 > circumstances. Kempf EK (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2015
 (UTC)
 > >
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