[Taxacom] Proofs for opinion

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Thu Jan 8 17:38:34 CST 2015

I didn't quite say that. My "conspiracy theory" is merely that the amendment was more carefully considered against the publishing model of Magnolia Press, and less so for other publishers (whether major or minor, commercial or not) who did not have a representative on the ICZN.


On Fri, 9/1/15, Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Proofs for opinion
 To: "'Stephen Thorpe'" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>, taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu, tpape at snm.ku.dk, Frank.Krell at dmns.org
 Received: Friday, 9 January, 2015, 12:24 PM
 Hi Stephen,
 As I have said before, you are
 WAY off base here.  Zhi-Qiang made excellent contributions
 to the discussion on the e-publication amendment, just as
 many other Commissioners and non-Commissioners did.  I
 don't recall ANY instance where his input in any way
 attempted to influence the direction of the final wording of
 the Amendment in a way that would favor "major
 commercial publishers".  We all share the same goal:
 nomenclatural stability.  The real problem is that there
 are different ways to interpret "stability". 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu]
 On Behalf Of
 > Stephen Thorpe
 > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:35
 > To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu;
 tpape at snm.ku.dk; Frank.Krell at dmns.org
 > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Proofs for
 > Well, I
 mean more so and especially with regard to electronic
 publishing (which
 > didn't exist in
 the Code a decade ago).
 > I don't think it is a "conspiracy
 theory" to think that the electronic amendement
 > was "heavily influenced" by the
 one commissioner who is also a major
 commercial publisher. I'd be surprised if it
 > On Fri, 9/1/15, Frank.Krell at dmns.org
 <Frank.Krell at dmns.org>
 >  Subject:
 RE: [Taxacom] Proofs for opinion
 >  To:
 stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz,
 taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu,
 > tpape at snm.ku.dk
 >  Received: Friday, 9 January, 2015, 9:44
 >  "Rather, I strongly
 >  suspect that we will have to learn to
 live with zoological  nomenclature that is
 > somewhat less than well-defined, i.e.
 >  somewhat vague and fuzzy around the
 Wow, Stephen, you haven't
 >  learned
 that yet - in all these decades?
 >  And stop with your Magnolia Press
 conspiracy  theory. This is just not true.
 >  Frank
 >  Dr.
 >  Frank-T. Krell
 Curator of Entomology
 >  Commissioner,
 International Commission on  Zoological Nomenclature 
 > ICZN ZooBank  Committee 
 Department of Zoology  Denver Museum of Nature
 > & Science
 >  2001
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 >  Denver, CO
 80205-5798 USA
 >  Frank.Krell at dmns.org
 >  Phone: (+1) (303)
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