[Taxacom] Why Defend the Code?

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Fri Oct 9 19:12:21 CDT 2015

And that "correspondent in New Zealand" wouldn't be called Rich, by any chance, would they? You know, that well-known, objective, humanitarian/philanthopist ... cough!


On Sat, 10/10/15, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Why Defend the Code?
 To: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>, "Taxacom List" <TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Saturday, 10 October, 2015, 12:28 PM
 Well, since that first line
 was taken from an email from a correspondent 
 in New Zealand, and was not my line, and not
 attached to any name, 
 clearly it must not
 apply to you, because after all, you have an 
 honorary something.  You see, Stephen, not
 everything is about you.
 10/9/2015 5:13 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
 > Putting to one side the personal attacks
 aimed at me, and the associated false claims (e.g., I do not
 have "no position", I have an honorary position),
 I actually agree with Mike that "our system of
 nomenclature is under attack", and that this is a
 problem to be solved. I disagree with Mike that the way to
 solve it is to mindlessly defend the Code as it is. The Code
 needs to change in order to solve this problem.
 Specifically, it needs to be simplified so that increasing
 numbers of people don't just throw their hands up in
 despair about it and walk away. Claiming that anyone with
 half a brain can easily understand the Code is only going to
 frustrate those perfectly intelligent people who find it to
 be more difficult. Make it easy to do nomenclature, and the
 problem will solve itself.
 > Stephen
 > On Sat, 10/10/15, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu>
 >   Subject: [Taxacom] Why Defend
 the Code?
 >   To:
 "Taxacom List" <TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 >   Received: Saturday, 10
 October, 2015, 12:02 PM
 >   This may have been
 precipitated by a
 >   recent
 set of events, but it is
 >   targeted at a broader group
 of messages that put me over the
 >   edge on the
 >   last one.  No individual
 person, living or dead, if
 >   specifically
 >   referred to below.
 >   I just received a private
 email asking why I would waste my
 >   time
 >   challenging someone with no
 position, no credibility and
 >   well known as a
 >   pedant and seeker of
 >   Why indeed.  Because I am an
 educator and a
 >   systematist.  It is time
 >   all wake up to a few
 things.  First, our system of
 >   nomenclature is under
 >   attack.  Few students are
 given a class in its use,
 >   most are told the
 >   rules are difficult and
 arcane.  This is giving rise to
 >   a movement to
 >   simply do away with
 >   Second, compliance with our
 Code is voluntary.  There
 >   is ZERO
 >   enforcement available.  We
 are just a thin line from a
 >   break to anarchy.
 >   Therefore, when someone wants
 to, repeatedly, claim the Code
 >   is poor, is
 >   difficult, is not well
 thought out, or otherwise in need of
 >   endless
 >   negative blather, there are
 people who read that.
 >   Hundreds more are
 >   exposed to this forum than
 ever post to it.  If such
 >   negativity comes
 >   from someone who projects a
 facade of expertise, people may
 >   even believe
 >   him or her.
 >   I understand the Code is not
 perfect, but it does
 >   work.  It does require
 >   diligence, and takes time
 from other activities that may be
 >   more fun,
 >   but it is not that hard.  We
 need to reinforce in the
 >   minds of our
 >   peers, and especially the
 younger members of our profession,
 >   that using
 >   the Code is what is expected,
 and it is not something to
 >   dread.  And,
 >   when mindless attacks are
 made claiming it is defective,
 >   difficult or
 >   irrelevant, we must defend it
 >   Mike
 >   --
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 Room 50
 >   1911 West Lincoln
 >   NW corner of
 Lincoln and S.19th
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 State University
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